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Kornan DeKobb



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:05 pm    Post subject: What the heck is up with this enjaz foto? Reply with quote

I have tried and tried six ways to Sunday to get my photo to fit the enjaz website's specs to no avail. I contacted the school who referred me to another guy who had the same problem and solved it. I sent him my photo, but he was unable to get mine to fit either. I asked another friend who also could not. I tried scanning a foto, no luck. I contacted enjaz's tech support who responded with the exact same info on the site. I am about to give up.

So all the months of preparation and finally securing a position are about to go down the tubes because of this?

Can anyone offer any insight here?
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007



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean by "to Sunday"? Are you using Enjaz IT technical word? Laughing

What was the format of your photo you are trying to fit in Enjaz website?
Have you tried to use different format: JPEG, JFIF, TIFF, RAW, PNG, BMP, etc?
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Bebsi



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have tried and tried six ways to Sunday to get my photo to fit the enjaz website's specs to no avail. I contacted the school who referred me to another guy who had the same problem and solved it. I sent him my photo, but he was unable to get mine to fit either. I asked another friend who also could not. I tried scanning a foto, no luck. I contacted enjaz's tech support who responded with the exact same info on the site. I am about to give up.

So all the months of preparation and finally securing a position are about to go down the tubes because of this?

Can anyone offer any insight here?


Shhhhh....yes, I can hear it...getting louder...the clear shrill of warning bells!

If you're having this much trouble now, before you even get there, and they are virtually incommunicado in any real sense, imagine what it will be like when you get there?
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sheikher



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My conjecture:

Please note: Due to the Islamic holiday Eid, the Saudi Arabian Government will be closed from Thursday November 11 to Friday November 19. Enjaz registrations submitted during the holiday duration will not be fully processed until November 22nd.

Add on a few days for them to exhaust their Lipton supply.

I guess you already knew this six days before Sunday:

Passport Picture - File Upload

A passport type passport type photograph, in color, front view and with a white background is required by the Saudi Arabia government. Acceptable photo formats include .jpg, .gif, .png, .bmp and .tif.

Please limit the maximum size of the photo to 1MB or less to prevent upload problems. If you receive an error page when submitting this form, and you do not see a confirmation message, the size of the photo is most likely the problem. Please go back to the form and reload a smaller photo.

Choose your passport picture to upload:*


https://saudivisa.travisaoutsourcing.com/saudi/form


and: In case you encounter problems loading the photo to the Saudi on-line form, follow these steps:

A Windows computer using Internet Explorer as the browser is required.
Change settings to enable "Download unsigned ActiveX controls". To do this, go to Tools -> Internet Options -> Security -> Custom level. Scroll to the listing for �Download unsigned ActiveX controls� and select the option �Enable�
Once that is enabled, the applicant should click on the yellow bar to allow the control to install. ((Once you have changed the setting to enabled, click on "OK" or "continue" (depending on your set up) to install your changes.)
It may be necessary to restart your Internet Explorer for the changes to take effect.
Once the control is installed, Click the�Import Person Picture� button.
If no window appears then the ActiveX control is not installed, so repeat the steps above and restart your Internet Explorer.
If you receive an error message, than your scanned photo is most likely not saved to the correct size.
Please note: after you select your photo, even if the photo does not appear in the photo box, you should be able to continue to the next step as long as you do not receive an error message.
Once your photo is loaded, click continue and follow the remaining steps above.


http://www.travisa.com/Saudi/guide-photo.html


Perchance you're using Apple technology? Be aware that KSA is not that far advanced!
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Kornan DeKobb



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am using Windows and Internet Explorer. My foto is a .jpg. Here are the specs that Enjaz insists upon:

    # photo width range ( 70pxl ) - ( 165pxl )
    # photo hight range ( 65pxl ) - ( 185pxl )
    # photo size range ( 3k ) - ( 4k )


My original foto was 3000 x 4000 pixels and 2.73 MB, obviously too large. So I resized it down to 65 x 87 but it is still 15.3 KB. Doesn't the number of pixels determine the size? How do I make all those things fit together? 3-4k is tiny.
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ummkhadija



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Location: ..The resort city of Saudi Arabia..

PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello: Kornan DeKobb

I had a friend who went through the same troubles and she just contacted a visa agency who worked with the enjaz and paid a fee (35$) to get it done.

If you're seriously getting tired of trying you can try that method, if not I agree with Bebsi,
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If you're having this much trouble now, before you even get there, and they are virtually incommunicado in any real sense, imagine what it will be like when you get there?
Shocked

UmmKhadija
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Bebsi



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some Qs for the OP:

Who exactly is this Travisa outfit? It looks like an agency approved by the Saudi embassy, right?

What exactly is this Enjaz thingie? I haven't heard of it before.

Has your employer in KSA already applied for and received your work visa authorization? If not, you ain't goin' nowhere, kiddo!

Are you even being given a work visa? I get the niggling feeling here you are being brought on a business visa. Bad idea!

Sounds like your employer has left you to your own devices. If so, that is a very bad sign.

How much do you know about Saudi Arabia? Have you lived/worked there in the past?[/b]
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Zaytoon



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What exactly is this Enjaz thingie? I haven't heard of it before.

It's something new, I haven't gotten that far yet. I have heard people have problems with it. The Saudi embassy requires it to process the visa. You do the thing online then send in the number it gives you with your visa application.


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I had a friend who went through the same troubles and she just contacted a visa agency who worked with the enjaz and paid a fee (35$) to get it done.

I tried to contacted a dozen or so agencies in DC from the list on the embassy website, and they charge around $200, but nobody will do Saudi employment visas anymore, just business visas. It doesn't really say on the contract, but based on what the agency is telling me I need for the visa, I'm pretty sure I have an employment contract.
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So I resized it down to 65 x 87 but it is still 15.3 KB. Doesn't the number of pixels determine the size? How do I make all those things fit together? 3-4k is tiny.


Yes, 3-4 KB is tiny... the requirement was obviously made by an idiot. Anyway, that's what you have to do, so here is how.

To answer your question first, the size of an image file is determined not only by the number of the pixels, but mainly by the quality of the image (detail, colors, sharpness/resolution, etc). You can change the size in KB without changing the physical dimensions using any one of several programs. A very easy to use yet powerful program is IrfanView. Everybody should have this program on their computer... I use it to view all the images I take with my camera on my travels.

Download it from (it is free!) http://www.irfanview.com and then open your picture with it. Then go to File -> Save As. In the dialog box, you will see Options. Click on it, and you will see a slider for image quality that goes from 0 to 100. Move it to, say, 50, change the file name, and save it. Then check how big your file is. If it is still bigger than 4 KB, go back to your original file and save it with less quality than last time. Once you have the size between 3 KB and 4 KB, start packing for the loads of fun to be had in this amazing place here! Cool
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Kornan DeKobb



Joined: 24 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trapezius wrote:
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So I resized it down to 65 x 87 but it is still 15.3 KB. Doesn't the number of pixels determine the size? How do I make all those things fit together? 3-4k is tiny.


Yes, 3-4 KB is tiny... the requirement was obviously made by an idiot. Anyway, that's what you have to do, so here is how.

To answer your question first, the size of an image file is determined not only by the number of the pixels, but mainly by the quality of the image (detail, colors, sharpness/resolution, etc). You can change the size in KB without changing the physical dimensions using any one of several programs. A very easy to use yet powerful program is IrfanView. Everybody should have this program on their computer... I use it to view all the images I take with my camera on my travels.

Download it from (it is free!) http://www.irfanview.com and then open your picture with it. Then go to File -> Save As. In the dialog box, you will see Options. Click on it, and you will see a slider for image quality that goes from 0 to 100. Move it to, say, 50, change the file name, and save it. Then check how big your file is. If it is still bigger than 4 KB, go back to your original file and save it with less quality than last time. Once you have the size between 3 KB and 4 KB, start packing for the loads of fun to be had in this amazing place here! Cool

Thanks, trap, that was really helpful, and Irfan is a great little program. I was able to get the foto to the right dimensions. This does bring me a step closer, and one that has taken over a month to solve.

HOWEVER, THE ENJAZ WEBSITE WILL STILL NOT ACCEPT IT!

I click on "Upload person picture," change all my security settings as told (multiple times), I allow blocked content, everything, and the foto will not upload. Above "Upload person picture" in a corner of the picture box is a small red "X" like you get when there is a broken link.

Now can anyone solve this latest problem?
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sheikher



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you pay US$10.50? https://enjazit.com.sa/default.htm


NB: We may modify or terminate the System or the Agreement in whole or in part at any time without prior notice. We also reserve the right to limit or suspend access to the System at any time for any reason up to Enjaz sole discretion. https://enjazit.com.sa/VisaPerApp/Agreement_Scr.asp


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Zaytoon



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Different computer?

You could email the photo to yourself, then go to your public library and log on to their computer...I don't quite have the rest worked out, can you do a "save" on a public computer?--but at least you could rule out the computer itself as the source of the problem.

The embassy has a phone number. I found them very helpful.
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paradox3696



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the best of my knowledge, only authorized agents have the access to get you the so-called "visa number".

In other words, you need to apply via some agent.

Best of luck to you
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sheikher



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the very best of luck getting reimbursed!
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Bebsi



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To the best of my knowledge, only authorized agents have the access to get you the so-called "visa number"
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KornanDeKobb,

What type of visa are you applying for? Work visa? Business visa? If you let us know, maybe someone would be in a better position to help you.
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