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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:09 am    Post subject: No.1 Travel - actual prices? Reply with quote

http://www.no1-travel.com/

Great website, but when trying to get these flights for these prices, it just doesn't occur.

Anyone actually bought a ticket for the price that is listed on their website?
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Bread



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just bought tickets from here: http://reserve.4travel.jp/

Tokyo to Newark for one week round trip. Listed price was 1.1万円, after taxes and stuff it was like 4.7万. Still a really, really good price for a round trip ticket to the east coast of the US.
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the4th2001



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I'm not mistaken, No. 1 Travel is owned by H.I.S. and they charge the same way. The quotes that they have listed don't include relevant taxes and surcharges. If you want to find the actual price, go through the motions of buying the ticket and eventually you'll see what they want to charge you.
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Shimokitazawa



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bread wrote:
I just bought tickets from here: http://reserve.4travel.jp/

Tokyo to Newark for one week round trip. Listed price was 1.1万円, after taxes and stuff it was like 4.7万. Still a really, really good price for a round trip ticket to the east coast of the US.


万 and 万円 - that's pretty cool how you used those chinese symbols, but what about giving it to us so that we understand what they mean?
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Shimokitazawa



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the4th2001 wrote:
If you want to find the actual price, go through the motions of buying the ticket and eventually you'll see what they want to charge you.


That's really good advice, I've done that on several websites. You don't actually purchase the ticket, but you go through the steps and eventually get to the "Check Out" phase of the purchase and then you can finally calculate how much extra is added on to the advertised fare.
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Ryu Hayabusa



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Shimokitazawa

Are you seriously implying that you don't know what 万 and 万円 mean?
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryu Hayabusa wrote:
@Shimokitazawa

Are you seriously implying that you don't know what 万 and 万円 mean?

Laughing Laughing Laughing Classic!

But just in case he really doesn't:

@Shimokitazawa
万 (man) is 10,000, so 4.7万円 = 47,000yen... many of your "we" even with awful Japanese can still recognise and understand common kanji such as those used for numbers/common denominations. For those that couldn't, surely it doesn't take too much common sense to copy&paste the character so that they could stick it through an online Japanese-English dictionary or enter "万 translation" into good ol' Google. Wink They should consider it good practice for dealing with barrage of far more difficult kanji they will likely face.
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bread posted
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Listed price was 1.1万円, after taxes and stuff it was like 4.7万. Still a really, really good price for a round trip ticket to the east coast of the US.


That is a very good price, though the only drawback is it's only a 1 week ticket. I would just about be over my jet lag....
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PG_Tips



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My two penny's worth:

I was looking for a cheap flight to the UK last October for January this year.

No.1 Travel and Across Travel both quoted me at around 260,000 JPY - via Schipol (KLM) or CDG Paris (AirFrance).

STA offered me a flight on the same dates via Copenhagen (SAS) for 125,000 JPY.

There are a few 'foreigner friendly' agents who market themselves in that manner just to overcharge an unsuspecting market. Foreigners they may peg as being limited in exploring cheaper alternatives due to language barriers.

Or... I could have been unlucky dealing with some unscrupulous agents needing to hit their monthly targets.

Make of it what you will.

PS.Without wanting to flame, using 万 only impresses if you've been in country five minutes and think that Japanese people complementing you is genuine, or don't speak the language. I can write Japanese and don't see the point in posting that way personally, especially if you have to clarify, but to each his own etc...
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

STA is aimed mostly at young people on tight budgets (aka students). They even have some tickets only on sale to young people under 26.

I flew out here direct with Virgin on one of these tickets which cost me half the price of buying the ticket for the exact same flight directly from the Virgin site.

The Japan STA site isn't as good as the UK one though so you have to contact them for actual prices, but they are very easy to deal with. Good ol' Noriyuki has never done wrong by me.

I haven't always bought from them since their deals are normally for ecomony fares and sometimes it works out cheaper to pay a little extra to fly back business class (which my baby brother gets me some nice discounts on) because I'm planning to bring back a lot and excess luggage prices are extortionate. But I always run prices via STa first just to work out if I'm getting value for money.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PG_Tips wrote:
I was looking for a cheap flight to the UK last October for January this year.

No.1 Travel and Across Travel both quoted me at around 260,000 JPY - via Schipol (KLM) or CDG Paris (AirFrance). [. . .] There are a few 'foreigner friendly' agents who market themselves in that manner just to overcharge an unsuspecting market. Foreigners they may peg as being limited in exploring cheaper alternatives due to language barriers.

EDITED back in for PG_Tips --> Or... I could have been unlucky dealing with some unscrupulous agents needing to hit their monthly targets.


I double checked just for fun, but No.1 Travel is owned by H.I.S. and they charge the same prices. I don't see how they are 'marketing themselves just to overcharge an unsuspecting market' when the organization as a whole offers other markets the same price. A little paranoid, no?


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David W



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the4th2001 wrote:
PG_Tips wrote:
I was looking for a cheap flight to the UK last October for January this year.

No.1 Travel and Across Travel both quoted me at around 260,000 JPY - via Schipol (KLM) or CDG Paris (AirFrance). [. . .] There are a few 'foreigner friendly' agents who market themselves in that manner just to overcharge an unsuspecting market. Foreigners they may peg as being limited in exploring cheaper alternatives due to language barriers.


I double checked just for fun, but No.1 Travel is owned by H.I.S. and they charge the same prices. I don't see how they are 'marketing themselves just to overcharge an unsuspecting market' when the organization as a whole offers other markets the same price. A little paranoid, no?

HIS is well known for scamming foreigners. Avoid them and their equally scummy offshoots at all costs.
For the best prices and zero hassles go direct to the airline web-sites.
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CarolinaBen



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not sure about going directly to the airline. I must say that I do not live in Japan yet, therefore I really have no idea.

I plan on taking a trip to Koh Phangan, Thailand as soon as possible after I move there. Of Course, you can only fly to Koh Samui and then ferry to Koh Phangan.

Across 1 Travel fare to Koh Sumui = 55,000 yen
JAL fare = 127,000 yen

I realize that H.I.S. really adds on a lot of extra charges. Do they really add on 72,000+ yen charges?

I looked at five different travel dates that were all two months out and came back with the same numbers.

Am I missing something?
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PG_Tips



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the4th2001 wrote:
PG_Tips wrote:
I was looking for a cheap flight to the UK last October for January this year.

No.1 Travel and Across Travel both quoted me at around 260,000 JPY - via Schipol (KLM) or CDG Paris (AirFrance). [. . .] There are a few 'foreigner friendly' agents who market themselves in that manner just to overcharge an unsuspecting market. Foreigners they may peg as being limited in exploring cheaper alternatives due to language barriers.


I double checked just for fun, but No.1 Travel is owned by H.I.S. and they charge the same prices. I don't see how they are 'marketing themselves just to overcharge an unsuspecting market' when the organization as a whole offers other markets the same price. A little paranoid, no?

No, not paranoid at all. Especially when you consider the fact you've omitted a pretty key part of my original post -
PG_Tips wrote:
Or... I could have been unlucky dealing with some unscrupulous agents needing to hit their monthly targets.

I'm guessing you either left that out because it already address the previous comment or were too knee-jerk to read that far.

No.1 and H.I.S are equally crap. Even Japanese people seek alternatives.

But, at least I know now not to go to you for ideas on 'fun' things to do.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CarolinaBen wrote:
I am not sure about going directly to the airline. I must say that I do not live in Japan yet, therefore I really have no idea.

I plan on taking a trip to Koh Phangan, Thailand as soon as possible after I move there. Of Course, you can only fly to Koh Samui and then ferry to Koh Phangan.

Across 1 Travel fare to Koh Sumui = 55,000 yen
JAL fare = 127,000 yen

I realize that H.I.S. really adds on a lot of extra charges. Do they really add on 72,000+ yen charges?

I looked at five different travel dates that were all two months out and came back with the same numbers.

Am I missing something?

Completely agree on the price difference. But, charges do add up. Some people prefer the hassle free way of buying a ticket. I personally go for the cheapest ticket I can find with a maximum 6 hr transfer wait between connections. If I had the money and was going direct, I might consider buying from an airline for the convenience and points.
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