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VladJR87
Joined: 06 Jul 2010 Posts: 87 Location: Moscow RU
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:51 pm Post subject: Arrived! |
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I will repost what I said over at Expat Forums
I have arrived in Moscow, a few days ago actually. Had quite the adventure in my 20-hour London layover, managed to see just about everything there is to see in London, and walked most of it. Unfortunately they would not let me sleep in the airport so I was forced to go to the connecting, expensive hotel, but it was worth it .
I am having a much harder time adjusting here than I thought I would. I have been unable to sleep (until exhaustion forced it around 0900), and maybe I drank some bad water or something, was not able to go out yesterday. I do not feel ill though at least.
Hopefully I will get into the swing of things soon as my class starts on Monday. I am questioning my plan of staying here to teach for a year or more afterwards though. But I am only a few days into it so way too early to tell (assuming I can get over these couple issues!).
But I have noticed two things right away, being somewhere, and living somewhere are very different! And a house is not necessarily a home!
Let me summarize it this way. I have a new found respect for people that live the jet-setting adventurous life away from their family, friends, and everything they know and love... it is a lot harder than I expected! But I am enjoying myself, and am looking forward to the class beginning.
Now if I can just figure out internet... I can access beeline from my apartment, and though I know it is not everyone's favorite it would be simple... except I cannot figure out on their page where to join, so hopefully I will find Yota somewhere on my way back to my flat today and get a USB modem. |
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smithrn1983
Joined: 23 Jul 2010 Posts: 320 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Good to hear you made it over safely, vlad. I had similar problems when I moved to Russia a few years ago. I couldn't eat or sleep much the first week or two I was there. Once you start meeting your colleagues, making friends and having fun, though, the phase will pass. Best of luck in your transition! |
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Houston
Joined: 04 Apr 2010 Posts: 44
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome to Mo-town.
If you have access to beeline in your flat, then you're pretty lucky. For the five weeks I spent here in September I had to go to cafes with free wireless connections.
The food and sleep thing will work itself out.
Good luck with the CELTA, it's challenging but fun. |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Tolerance of ambiguity, tolerance of ambiguity, tolerance of ambiguity....repeat until sleep occurs.
Seriously - it won't probably settle down into anything resembling 'normality' until and unless you get the CELTA safely behind you, land a job, and create a routine for yourself. It's a matter of enjoying the journey as much as possible!
Good luck, and let us know how it is going when you have time! |
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deepteeth
Joined: 12 Jan 2011 Posts: 23 Location: Russia
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:05 am Post subject: |
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Glad to hear your travels went safely. You're doing the right thing by writing it down, letting people know. Never underestimate your body's need for biorhythms - it will take more than a few days to get over 'jet lag' IMO. |
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JN
Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Posts: 214
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Hope all goes well for you and you get into the swing of things soon. |
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mackayscanland
Joined: 15 Mar 2009 Posts: 39
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:34 am Post subject: How's it going? |
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Hi Vlad, there's people out here that are monitoring your progress. It's been two weeks, unless your posting elsewhere. Let me know how it's going. I'm looking at doing mine in the summer during break.
Mac |
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VladJR87
Joined: 06 Jul 2010 Posts: 87 Location: Moscow RU
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: How's it going? |
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mackayscanland wrote: |
Hi Vlad, there's people out here that are monitoring your progress. It's been two weeks, unless your posting elsewhere. Let me know how it's going. I'm looking at doing mine in the summer during break.
Mac |
Yes yes, of course! My bad! I will talk about both subjects as I know some are more interested in how I have adjusted, but surely some are interested in the CELTA portion. (Sorry its a long post, I would appreciate any comments/suggestions though!)
CELTA
It is going much better, I am thoroughly enjoying the course. It is intensive. When I was about to enter high-school they had some sort of parent meeting night with teachers, they were all assured we could expect one to two hours of homework a night per class hour. It was a lie, to put the scope of it into perspective- sophomore year I did not do a single minute of regular homework at home- everything was done at school in/between classes. I say this because that is largely how I could summarize my experience with "intensive." Nothing is ever intense as they claim it is.
CELTA is. It is not hard, in my opinion, but incredibly time consuming. I am lucky to have any free time on weekdays, and that is saying something since I sleep very little and do not do things like cook (normally just microwave things on weekdays ). So be prepared for that. There is plenty of free time on the weekends, though there is always stuff to work on.
As with any class your mileage may vary, some students spend ridiculous numbers of hours working on plans, while other students seem to pump a great plan out in 30 minutes. I tend to take a long time, but I can also squeeze a passable one out pretty quickly when I need to.
Now, to me
I got all adjusted quite well. Without getting into details I am still sick, I have not really felt ill at all in the three weeks I have been here, but... well I have been. I am hoping that improves, switched the brand of juice and stuff hoping it was something simple like that. I am overly careful about water (only drink and cook with store bought, and even washed dishes get rinsed with store bought). So honestly not sure what it is.
That being said, I am enjoying myself immensely. I have come to some conclusions though that may be changing my goals. Long story short I did this to come to Russia, I wanted the CELTA, the experience, but it was all about Russia in the beginning. My thought was as long as I was decent at teaching, it would be the best way to get to, and stay in Russia, and it would be worth it. I am not the world traveler type, note I did not say it was about traveling, it was about Russia (long story but basically following family heritage). I am now realizing that living somewhere, just to live there, is not really enough. I would rather live in the United States with a job I loved than in Moscow with a job I could only tolerate. And vice versa (but the plus to the US is if I do not like a job, I can job-shop, where as here I cannot really).
Anyway... I do not at this time want to sign a year long contract. Ideally I will get a 2-month option, to finish off my visa. I know that is not common at all, but I am hoping it will work out- I do not expect the benefits of completing a year-long contract, but basically I do not want to enter into a contract that if I decided teaching was not for me, I could not get out of without breaking my word and getting screwed on pay and such.
Similarly it seems a 5-month option would be awesome as well (two more on this visa, and one more visa run). My theory being if I decided it was not for me, I could do it for five months okay.
I do not however know what I will do if all I can find is year-long offers. Unless they rival anything I think I could get in the US (almost guaranteed not to), I do not think I would stay. In which case I would probably pursue business options to bring me to Russia (traditional business), or use my CELTA back in Seattle (in which case if I loved it I could certainly return to Russia). I have also considered for a long time teaching in the school system back home, which would require another degree (something I was not going to commit to without some teaching experience).
Summary
I am very torn. I am not confident enough to sign a year-long contract at this point, but think it unlikely I get the ideal two-month option, or even a six-month option (less ideal, but doable I think). We have a recruiting meeting with BKC on Thursday though and we will see what comes out of that.
My options for shopping other schools is limited as I have access to the BKC flat one week after class ends (ends the 11th) at not a small cost, but I probably need to arrange my flight within a week of my planned departure.
I am excited to see what comes of it. If I return home, go back to work, find a career, etc. etc... I will still always value this experience and never regret it.
Maybe people have some comments or recommendations? Sorry for the long post! |
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mackayscanland
Joined: 15 Mar 2009 Posts: 39
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:51 pm Post subject: Vlad in Russia |
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First, Glad your safe and on the course, That has to be the first win of your journey! You have a month, so, don't get discouraged yet. Sounds like you need to eval exactly why you chose where you did to do the course and focus on that. Somestimes we're not honest with ourselves of that fact and lose focus. I was in Kharkov, scoping out whether I wan't to do my CELTA there or not. Well, I would have been more apt to dating than studying. (but isn't that why we go there?). Decided to look elsewhere though and still haven't chosen a location, hence, why I'm monitoring your progress. Sounds like the Visa process is a real pain!
Everyone is going to want a "school year" contract no matter where your at, so, enjoy it. Keep up the posts! |
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smithrn1983
Joined: 23 Jul 2010 Posts: 320 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:01 am Post subject: |
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pm sent |
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kazachka
Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Posts: 220 Location: Moscow and Alaska
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Sick??? Are you sure you don't have this nasty flu going around???? I'm once again wearing a mask in the metro since it's acceptable here to be a jerk and hack and sneeze without covering your mouth.
Hope things work out for you though! |
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VladJR87
Joined: 06 Jul 2010 Posts: 87 Location: Moscow RU
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:05 am Post subject: |
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mackayscanland wrote: |
...Sounds like you need to eval exactly why you chose where you did to do the course and focus on that. Somestimes we're not honest with ourselves of that fact and lose focus. I was in Kharkov, scoping out whether I wan't to do my CELTA there or not.... |
That might be part of the problem. I was looking at jobs in the Middle East and such the other night and it pays way better than Russia, but still not a lot. I chose to do the CELTA for Russia, as a way to spend more time in Russia. I really do not have much interest in going anywhere else, and now the problem that is striking me is if I do not absolutely love teaching English, I am not sure it is worth it. I mean I want to spend time in Russia, but working a job that pays horrible and I do not absolutely love would not be worth it when I know I can line things up that satisfy both of those in the states. Of course, they are not in Russia!
The problem is I do not know yet if I love teaching or not. I really enjoy it, but I know it will change a lot when I am out of the course and actually teaching. I am sure some things change for the better, and some for the worse.
It seems the only thing that keeps people in this job is passion for teaching English. Which is great, but I am not sure I have that passion.
That is why I was hoping BKC would keep me around for two months and then send me back for a work permit, if I decided I did not have that passion in those two months I could give them my notice easily.
But going back to the states, getting a job over here and all that entails, is a much bigger deal than just hanging around for a couple months. It makes it much riskier.
kazachka wrote: |
Sick??? Are you sure you don't have this nasty flu going around???? I'm once again wearing a mask in the metro since it's acceptable here to be a jerk and hack and sneeze without covering your mouth.
Hope things work out for you though! |
Yes its stomach issues. Like I said I feel fine I just... not going into details lol . |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Vlad, for what it's worth, I'm going to try to encourage you to consider the year-long option. Honestly, one year isn't realy that long in the big scheme of things. Russia being what it is, a shorter contract isn't really going to give you time to get yourself well oriented and into a regular routine. It might take three or four months to get your feet under you, and a bit longer to relax enough to enjoy it.
You've invested considerable time, energy, and funds into the project already - it really might be worth your while to at least consider any year-long contracts that you might be offered.
I realise it's hard to think about when you're uncomfortable and in the midst of a truly intensive course - but seriously, it could be something you'd regret later if you don't give it a really good try. Much harder to come back later - and it's also not so easy to find a newbie level job in the US in the ESL field. |
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VladJR87
Joined: 06 Jul 2010 Posts: 87 Location: Moscow RU
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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I will certainly consider them, but when I get back to the states I am not going to sit around and wait. I want to move out, find a good job, pursue all my opportunities. If any of these things happen it is going to be harder to justify leaving to come back. Not to mention the higher risk than if I had just been able to stay like I had anticipated (if I decide its not for me I get screwed basically).
Realistically unless something magic happens tomorrow I am leaving after the CELTA is complete. At which point I will have plenty of time to think it all over.
I would love to come back, but honestly I would come back for Russia, not for teaching English- and I think it is going to be hard convincing myself leaving my family, friends, home, good job, everything again for Russia is worth it. I will certainly be pursuing business opportunities as well, and that would be different (if coming back means pursuing an awesome business opportunity).
If I return soon I will probably look for ESL teaching opportunities if only to get some experience (if I decide I love it I may want to return to Russia as quickly as possible), but I will probably cruise right back into my old job that is not a 'career', but pays about three or four times what I would make teaching English, and by all counts an awesome job. |
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Houston
Joined: 04 Apr 2010 Posts: 44
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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I did the CELTA in Moscow fairly recently, and I'll say that don't evaluate Moscow teaching by your CELTA experience. Once you get a job, there isn't anyone in the classroom critiquing your every move, and you're free to experiment with your teaching style until you find something that works for you and your students.
I think Russian students are great. They're responsive, inquisitive, and they really want to learn English. My teaching experience has been so much more positive than my CELTA experience, and my CELTA experience wasn't bad. I took the legitimate criticisms they leveled at me, and learned from them. Some of the criticisms were more a reflection of my base personality and the fact that my Southern accent is a bass monotone, but there's not really anything I can do about that. I don't intonate like a Brit does, but I enunciate very well, and many of my students have commented that it's actually easier to understand a monotone teacher who enunciates, rather than a teacher who intonates but blurs their syllables.
Lesson planning becomes much simpler after CELTA as well. Learn the grammar point, figure out how to explain the vocabulary, figure out what examples you want to use, and you're good to go.
I'm a hardcore introvert and I think I'm doing a decent job at teaching here, and most people have more social skills than I do. Don't get discouraged, I'd advise you to try out a standard 9 month contract. If you don't like it, you can leave at any time. I just think you'll find it to be a different experience once you have your own long-term classes, rather than sharing a short-term class with five other teachers. |
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