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No CELTA...Have Teaching License from Ohio...Am I OK?
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tgrear2008



Joined: 21 Dec 2010
Posts: 5
Location: Seoul
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:29 pm    Post subject: No CELTA...Have Teaching License from Ohio...Am I OK? Reply with quote
Well,

Title says it all. Am I good to go for Vietnam with a BA and a state teaching license from ohio, and a couple years experience with a public school? One year in Korea ESL.

No CELTA.

Also, I cant get a straight answer. Does vietnam want a State Police Check or an FBI? A state check is way easier and quicker. I'm also in Korea at the moment. for what its worth.

Im looking to go to HCMC. Any other thoughts, pitfalls, words of wisdom?

Yes, I'm trying for INT schools, but I need a contingency plan.
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toiyeuthitmeo



Joined: 21 May 2010
Posts: 213
PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Get a CELTA. Takes a month, you can do it in Saigon or Hanoi and use the time to acclimatize, it is actually quite useful, and will pay for itself quite quickly in terms of better work opportunities and pay rates.

International schools should work out if you specialize in a subject they like (maths, science, technology).
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tgrear2008



Joined: 21 Dec 2010
Posts: 5
Location: Seoul
PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I just thought that a state teaching license was equal to a CELTA in regards to them being recognized certificates and carrying some weight, obviously not content. Plus I will have 1 year of ESL classroom experience, in addition to the other two years teaching math in NC.

I have to take a couple classes to renew my license before it expires this summer, so I don't want to throw down another couple grand for a CELTA in the same year.

Thanks for your info, I will consider this as an option, and weigh the costs/ benefits.
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snollygoster



Joined: 04 Jun 2009
Posts: 478
PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:48 am    Post subject: Need CELTA? Reply with quote
In your case you can work without CELTA. Police check? Not sure as its a nightmare for USA folks. I know of people who have local check only and have Work permits. The "laws" in Vietnam are flexible depending on who you are, who you are talking to and the condition of the moon and the growth rate of the roses.
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tmac-100



Joined: 23 Nov 2006
Posts: 137
PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
tgrear2008 wrote:
I just thought that a state teaching license was equal to a CELTA in regards to them being recognized certificates and carrying some weight, obviously not content. Plus I will have 1 year of ESL classroom experience, in addition to the other two years teaching math in NC.

I have to take a couple classes to renew my license before it expires this summer, so I don't want to throw down another couple grand for a CELTA in the same year.

Thanks for your info, I will consider this as an option, and weigh the costs/ benefits.


Do NOT shortchange yourself. Take the CELTA. It will be more useful in Vietnam or anywhere else than your TL from Ohio.

I am looking at CELTA in spite of having a TL, M.Ed and Ph.D. For doing ESL the CELTA is more useful than a TL and a graduate degree outside of the ESL field..

Re-visit your last sentence Very Happy
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hot_rock



Joined: 16 Apr 2010
Posts: 107
PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Snollygoster, I'm delighted to say for once a post of yours made me smile (smirk). Merry christmas sir
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Oh My God



Joined: 31 Jan 2010
Posts: 273
PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
tmac-100 wrote:
tgrear2008 wrote:
I just thought that a state teaching license was equal to a CELTA in regards to them being recognized certificates and carrying some weight, obviously not content. Plus I will have 1 year of ESL classroom experience, in addition to the other two years teaching math in NC.

I have to take a couple classes to renew my license before it expires this summer, so I don't want to throw down another couple grand for a CELTA in the same year.

Thanks for your info, I will consider this as an option, and weigh the costs/ benefits.


Do NOT shortchange yourself. Take the CELTA. It will be more useful in Vietnam or anywhere else than your TL from Ohio.

I am looking at CELTA in spite of having a TL, M.Ed and Ph.D. For doing ESL the CELTA is more useful than a TL and a graduate degree outside of the ESL field..

Re-visit your last sentence Very Happy


The main requirement is some piece of paper that says "you're a teacher" beyond that, it's not about the amount of education you've acquired.

However, TL's are task specific and tgrear2008 said that he/she had been teaching math - math teachers in most of Asia are a "dime a dozen". What else are you licensed to teach?

You might check out this link: http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=85688&start=15

Now the police check could end up being quite complicated for you as they want it complete through the time you apply for your WP. Which means something from every country you've been in since you left the USA and, of course, from the USA as well.

Looks like you've got your work really cut out for you! Maybe you've got somebody back home that you could send a POA to, that would help things along and save you a lot of money and hassle as well.

Good luck and Happy Hunting!
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tgrear2008



Joined: 21 Dec 2010
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Location: Seoul
PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well my license is Middle School Math and Social Studies. I'm not sure if math teachers are a dime a dozen as they seem to have more job vacancies then when I look for Social Studies positions.

I think procuring all the necessary police checks will be a PITA however I have almost 8 months to get things lined up. My plan is to arrive in Vietnam and see what my current qualifications can do for me, then if it is necessary, take the CELTA course.

I feel I understand the process of authenticating the documents from the US. I never considered what to do with the police check from Korea, so I will go consult the wisdom/nonsense of Google once again.

Thanks for your helpful replies.
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