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Xi'an Jiaotong-Liverpool University, Suzhou

 
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sojourner



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:03 pm    Post subject: Xi'an Jiaotong-Liverpool University, Suzhou Reply with quote

Hi,everyone !

Is there anyone out there who has ever worked at the above uni; or, at least, has heard about it on the grapevine ? Good and bad points ?

Unfortunately, Dave's search facility does not appear to be working - thus, this post.

Peter
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leftie



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was this thread:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=57685&highlight=xjtlu

.....which was posted a while ago. Anyone with any more up-to-date info?

Thinking of applying myself....maybe for next year.

Thanks Very Happy
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coffeespoonman



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just been offered a job there and would love any updated info. Recent info about XJTLU seems to be strangely lacking here at Dave's, which I generally take as a good sign. Happy teachers enjoy life rather than complaining on Dave's. Or is that wishful thinking?

Any updates?
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Gamecock



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Recent info about XJTLU seems to be strangely lacking here at Dave's, which I generally take as a good sign. Happy teachers enjoy life rather than complaining on Dave's. Or is that wishful thinking?


I would chalk it up to wishful thinking. This is a country with over a billion people and thousands upon thousands of ESL positions. As well, this board is quite small compared to Dave's board from another country which shall not be named. A good percentage of teachers in China don't even know about this site.

I would NEVER assume that because you don't see a warning written here (or elsewhere) about a job in China that it is good. Even very good jobs can change very quickly in this business for various reasons. You should ask for e-mail addresses of current teachers and seek out their opinion on the place.
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coffeespoonman



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gamecock, I think that's very good advice. In fact, I've already done that. I'm no spring chicken. Smile However, because there might be pressure to respond in a certain way through your work email or if the adminstration knows you're having a conversation like that, I thought I'd approach this from a more anonymous angle as well.

For the benefit of everyone else curious about XJTLU, I'd just like to announce that the feedback I've received from people working there has been realistically positive. Enough, at least, to persuade me to think very seriously about accepting the offer.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="coffeespoonman"]For the benefit of everyone else curious about XJTLU, I'd just like to announce that the feedback I've received from people working there has been realistically positive. Enough, at least, to persuade me to think very seriously about accepting the offer.[/quote]

I've been there for some time and, yeah there are issues, but you're right to think seriously about taking the job. You're paid on time, you get good holidays and the accommodation is fine (some better than others).

Downsides? As always, some of the people. Being in SIP away from the action. Chinese may be changing the rules to bar NNS
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coffeespoonman



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, some feedback!

Now, I hope you don't mind some questions! Very Happy I would pm, but your post count is low and you may not be able to. Also, because they're hiring a good amount of teachers, the answers to my questions may be relevant for others as well.

I've accepted the job for an August 22nd start. Actually, I have a GREAT job here in Istanbul, but I've been here for almost 6 years and really need a change of scenery. To be honest, I'm kind of looking forward to not being in the middle of everything for a change. I'm hoping to do some of the things I can't easily do here - bicycle, picnic, etc. I assume that would be easy to do in the SIP, right?.

However, easy access to action would be nice. Smile I understand that taxis from the SIP to the city center are fairly cheap (like 40 RMB). Is that true?

Also, which accomodation would you recommend? After I adjust a bit, would you recommend staying on campus or off? Is Suzhou cool for bars/restaurants/nightlife, or is it more practical for a weekend to just go into Shanghai and get a cheap hotel room?

Any other information that you think would be really valuable? Can you be more specific about the issues? Feel free to PM if you don't feel comfortable giving certain details on Dave's.

Thanks in advance!
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leftie



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tuwljmv wrote:


I've been there for some time and, yeah there are issues, but you're right to think seriously about taking the job. You're paid on time, you get good holidays and the accommodation is fine (some better than others).

Downsides? As always, some of the people. Being in SIP away from the action. Chinese may be changing the rules to bar NNS


Which accommodation would you recommend?
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tuwljmv



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:06 pm    Post subject: Xian jiaotong liverpool uni Reply with quote

Here you go then!

The teachers block isn't good in winter because the windows don't fit right. I don't have exact details about all the flats, but the other flats vary in size, so ask a lot of questions. Yeah, you'll probably want to move nearer town after a while.

Is Suzhou cool? Well that depends....personally no. Shanghai's better and good for weekends and maybe overnight if you're really into it. But there's plenty of OK bars and restaurants in town and near the uni, and taxis are cheap

Social amenities aren't that developed or you have to share with a bunch of students, like the swimming pool. But, yeah you can picnic and bike around, and there's golf, tennis, etc

The 'issues' are the same you get in any job, but less than most places in China. Just don't take things too personal. Good luck.
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della



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have input on the accommodation allowances? How much assistance do you get with accommodation? How much is paid for?

I'm looking at applying to work at XJTLU and any other input folks have got would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some pretty negative views on that other thread (and one that was deleted). I wonder if the rooms are still frigid in winter and if people leave in droves. They are recruiting a rather large number. Exclamation Question
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wangdaning



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skyblue2 wrote:
They are recruiting a rather large number. Exclamation Question


You must be in the know here, why are you asking? Sorry, but seems a bit odd.

--Read the ad more thoroughly and I get it.
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leftie



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

della wrote:
Does anyone have input on the accommodation allowances? How much assistance do you get with accommodation? How much is paid for?

I'm looking at applying to work at XJTLU and any other input folks have got would be appreciated.


I believe the housing allowance is 3000 a month. Not sure about the amount of assistance you get, although there seems to be some serviced apartments on or near to campus.

I'm wondering what it's like to live in these serviced apartments, or if it's worth paying a bit extra to rent somewhere a bit closer to amenities.....
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Skyblue2



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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

leftie wrote:
della wrote:
Does anyone have input on the accommodation allowances? How much assistance do you get with accommodation? How much is paid for?

I'm looking at applying to work at XJTLU and any other input folks have got would be appreciated.

I'm wondering what it's like to live in these serviced apartments, or if it's worth paying a bit extra to rent somewhere a bit closer to amenities.....

Good question. Anyone know about their accom?
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Josef K



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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know anything about the university - although I have seen the ad - but I have been to SIP.

I ended up at the railway station by mistake, having caught a train from Shanghai.

The place is basically barren just new highways, industrial buildings and few amenities. You would need a scooter or car if u wanted to socialise on the weekends - 15 minuted to Suzhou by car.

Suzhou is an interesting place - many old gardens and a charming old district alongside the canal with some nice bars. However, traffic is a nightmare; there are scooters everywhere. Many scooters are electric so the noise - save for the incessant horns - isnt too bad but commuting via the narrow roads and congested streets is no fun at the best of times.

One good thing about the place - plenty of cheap food with a variety of restaurants and the people, I thought, were congenial.
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