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vorticity
Joined: 23 Aug 2010 Posts: 35 Location: The Eurasian Plate
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:31 pm Post subject: Distance MA |
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Hey
It would seem from the posts of some that such qualifications hold little value with employers in KSA. However, there seem to be some who have experienced a more favourable attitude. Is there anyone who falls into the latter category? And if so, would you mind disclosing some details in this regard?
Also - if you fall into the former - is this an attitude you feel is likely to differ greatly amongst employers in KSA?
I'm considering undertaking a distance MA, and would be grateful for responses to the above; as well as any useful advice those with experience might offer.
Thanks in advance, and I look forward to your responses |
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lazycomputerkids
Joined: 22 Sep 2009 Posts: 360 Location: Tabuk
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Distance MA |
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vorticity wrote: |
Hey
It would seem from the posts of some that such qualifications hold little value with employers in KSA. However, there seem to be some who have experienced a more favourable attitude. Is there anyone who falls into the latter category? And if so, would you mind disclosing some details in this regard?
Also - if you fall into the former - is this an attitude you feel is likely to differ greatly amongst employers in KSA?
I'm considering undertaking a distance MA, and would be grateful for responses to the above; as well as any useful advice those with experience might offer.
Thanks in advance, and I look forward to your responses |
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vorticity
Joined: 23 Aug 2010 Posts: 35 Location: The Eurasian Plate
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Hey 'lazy'. The only implicative I see from your previous two posts MOD EDIT, I believe [if so, well done]) is the amount of free time you apparently have on your hands |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Dear vorticity,
I'll be very interested and surprised if anyone responds affirmatively regarding an employer's having a positive attitude towards degrees obtained on-line. To the best of my understanding, very few in the Kingdom would fall into that category, and none of those would be among the better class of employers.
However, not having the ability to know the requirements of all the potential employers in Saudi, I could be mistaken.
Regards,
John |
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vorticity
Joined: 23 Aug 2010 Posts: 35 Location: The Eurasian Plate
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for your reply, johnslat.
Well, the idea I'm getting is pretty much what you've mentioned. It seems one might find a favourable attitude should they go through a recruiter; but as far as direct-hire is concerned, it may be a different story.. (and I'm open to be proven otherwise..) |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:43 am Post subject: |
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I recall reading here that distance/online MAs won't be approved by the Ministry, but those who said that could have only "heard" it too.
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Most employers do not recognise MAs done by distance learning. Nor, to the best of my knowledge, does the Saudi Ministry of Education. That may mean that if your job title requires an MA (most teaching jobs do no) the embassy would not give you a visa if they were aware that your degree was done online.
However, many employers do recognise 'blended' degrees - where part of the study was done online, and part of it on campus. If your degree falls into this category, you should be OK. |
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vorticity
Joined: 23 Aug 2010 Posts: 35 Location: The Eurasian Plate
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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I see.. thanks for that.
Also, a query about your post, 'Cleopatra':
"..(most teaching jobs do no).."
Do you mean 'not' or 'now'? I have a feeling it's now.. which leads me to another question..
are there any blended-courses available for those working full-time in KSA? If so, has anyone been on one?
Thanks again, and I hope you people don't mind my picking your brains |
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Cleopatra

Joined: 28 Jun 2003 Posts: 3657 Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Do you mean 'not' or 'now'? I have a feeling it's now.. which leads me to another question.. |
The 'no' was a typo for 'not'. And, to clarify, when I say most ESL jobs do not require MAs, what I mean is that as far as the embassy is concerned, those job descriptions do not require an MA. The individual employer, however, may still prefer or even require teachers with MAs.
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are there any blended-courses available for those working full-time in KSA? If so, has anyone been on one? |
I know at least one or two people who have done the MA in Applied Linguistics with Birmingham University,and they are happy with it. As far as I know, it is accepted by the Saudi Min of Ed. |
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vorticity
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Had a look on their website (University of Birmingham), but didn't find mention of any 'blended' programmes. Didn't find much via google as well (atleast as far as UK universities are concerned). |
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johnslat

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vorticity
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, johnslat, that's the one. I did have a fair good read of the information there, but didn't find mention that any part of the course (optional or otherwise) would/could be on campus.
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johnslat

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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Dear vorticity
Ah, but if it's accepted by the Ministry of Ed in Saudi (as Cleopatra believes,) no problem (i.e. ma fi mushkils.)
Now - how to find out for sure that the Ministry accepts it; that's the problem.
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John |
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vorticity
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Ma fi mushkila indeed. And actually, I was thinking about that before - i.e. how one might find out specifically what the Ministry considers acceptable. So another question is raised.. |
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Cleopatra

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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Had a look on their website (University of Birmingham), but didn't find mention of any 'blended' programmes. Didn't find much via google as well (atleast as far as UK universities are concerned). |
I don't think any university refers to their own programmes as 'blended' - it's an informal term used to refer to degrees done by a 'blend' of online and on-campus studies.
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Ma fi mushkila indeed. And actually, I was thinking about that before - i.e. how one might find out specifically what the Ministry considers acceptable. So another question is raised.. |
I think they have a website with the relevant information, though it's probably only in Arabic. You might also try and find an Arabic speaker to phone the Ministry on your behalf, as a friend of mine once did. Whether the answer you receive will be 'definitive' is of course, another question. |
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