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TONII
Joined: 01 Mar 2011 Posts: 2
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:14 pm Post subject: Oh my god, Helen Consulting Hangzhou � Terrible Experience |
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I come from Austria and worked many years as teacher in China. Last year I had the most terrible working experience with this Helen Consulting Agency in Hangzhou. The key point is that they couldn�t manage for me a working visa for one year teaching contract and also insurance. After finished my working this semester in end januarry., they informed me that they are not happy with my teaching and suddenly terminated the contract with me. Is this normal and legal here? Does somebody have the same trouble like me with Helen Consulting? |
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sharonariel
Joined: 06 Jan 2011 Posts: 54 Location: Changzhou, Jiangsu
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:46 pm Post subject: Might I suggest |
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that you use the search function? Helen Chen has been discussed on here more than once. |
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The Great Wall of Whiner

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 4946 Location: Blabbing
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Schools normally cannot legally hire teachers from non-English countries to teach English, so the fact that they couldn't get you a one-year proper working visa with your Austrian passport does not surprise. |
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lee_barttwater
Joined: 28 Jan 2011 Posts: 35
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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Since when is Australia a non-English country? |
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daCabbie

Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 244
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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ha-haa
It's always fun to start the day with a good laugh.
Thanks. I thought Argentina was an English speaking country? |
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TexasHighway
Joined: 03 Dec 2005 Posts: 779
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:20 am Post subject: |
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You need to adjust your bifocals there Lee. The OP is from Austria, not Australia! |
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samhouston
Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 418 Location: LA
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:40 am Post subject: |
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That's a lovely accent you have. New Jersey? |
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mat chen
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 494 Location: xiangtan hunan
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:03 am Post subject: |
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China is getting like Korea. I worked in Korea for six years and heard numerous horor stories where teachers were fired just before finishing a contract. You got to do your homework here. Don't trust recruiters or agents to do it for you. They get paid for your work after a month. It is like getting your wallet picked. Most people don't go to the police because they are embarrassed. Most people don't post on Dave's for the same reason. |
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Halapo
Joined: 05 Sep 2009 Posts: 140 Location: Jiangsu, China
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:11 am Post subject: |
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The only thing I will say in defense of this company was they picked me up from the airport, let me stay in a company apartment for 3 days, then put me on a bus to my school in the next province over.
After that they were just a pain in my ass. Lucky my school was great. When somebody from Helen's would call to ask, they just said I was doing well, everything was good and that Helen's needed to send my paycheck faster. The school even gave me a all that in writing, so at the end of the year (this is 3 years ago) they couldn't stick me with that "we are not satisfied crap" and had to pay up my bonus and airfare. They did not ask me to work for them again, nor would I. |
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teachfortoday
Joined: 21 Jan 2011 Posts: 48
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:08 am Post subject: |
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There are several other threads about Helen Recruiting in Hangzhou, including mine.
Getting paid or reimbursed was a constant struggle. It seemed as though there was a new problem every week. The people I would call would be polite and promise results, but then everything would either be delayed or ignored. |
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TONII
Joined: 01 Mar 2011 Posts: 2
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: Oh my god, Helen Consulting Hangzhou � Terrible Experien |
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I never stop to fight for my right and now I get the help from a lawyer. If anyone has the same troubles with school or agency like me, please send to my [email protected]. My lawyer will also help by charging 20% of the total compensation for the case. |
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mat chen
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 494 Location: xiangtan hunan
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Today I drew a map on the black board of China and Japan. I pointed out that most people in Japan live on the coast and most people in China live on the inside. Now this explains the thinking too. Chinese have a long history of blaiming outsiders for problems internally.
So in this country we get paid after the friend of the recruiter ,after the FAO, and then the recruiter (and who knows who else).
Smell the coffee? |
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Banner41
Joined: 04 Jan 2011 Posts: 656 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:03 am Post subject: |
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mat chen wrote: |
Today I drew a map on the black board of China and Japan. I pointed out that most people in Japan live on the coast and most people in China live on the inside. Now this explains the thinking too. Chinese have a long history of blaiming outsiders for problems internally.
So in this country we get paid after the friend of the recruiter ,after the FAO, and then the recruiter (and who knows who else).
Smell the coffee? |
Perhaps I'm fuzzy on this but, I thought that the majority or Chinese lived on the east coast and if you live in Japan, isn't it pretty much all considered coastal being 10% smaller then the state of California and all? It is an island after all? Correct me if I am wrong. |
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mat chen
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 494 Location: xiangtan hunan
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:54 am Post subject: |
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Beijing Nanjing, Chungdu. Xian, The capitals have always been located on the inside. It is only in the last few hundred years that CHina's coastal cities have imerged. Same as Korea. Have you noticed how few borrowed words there are in CHinese. THe Japanese language is peppered with English words. Table necktie, Pork chopo, nighter. I have been in over 50 countries in my life and Japan has treated me the best. |
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Laurence
Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 401
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:42 am Post subject: |
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Japan, isn't it pretty much all considered coastal (...) It is an island after all? Correct me if I am wrong. |
OK -
a) It's not 'an island' - it's four geographically and perhaps culturally distinct main islands, with a few smaller islands scattered around certain areas (one of the most famous being Okinawa).
b) In smaller 'island nations', or nations with a relatively large coastline, one's sense of scale tends to change in terms of distance. In Italy, for example, only people living within, say, 20km of the coast would consider themselves occupying a coastal location. Ditto for Indonesia. Ditto for Japan. |
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