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TheBiggestBob



Joined: 13 Jan 2011
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:24 pm    Post subject: American Tesol Institute Thailand Reply with quote

Hi there,

I just wanted to know if anyone has done the orientation with these guys in Bangkok and the associated 4-5 month job placement?

I haven't been able to find a great deal of information on them other than what is on their own website. So are they a legitimate business? Is there really a 100% guarantee of a job placement?

The program I have been enquiring about is a 5 day orientation for those who have already completed a 60hr TEFL course. The whole package is 300USD and it sounds like a good deal but as I can't find a whole lot of reviews on them.

Any advice would be really appreciated
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TeresaLopez



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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:28 pm    Post subject: Re: American Tesol Institute Thailand Reply with quote

I didn�t do the program in Thailand, but I did take one of their courses and it was quite good, they are legit, they have been around for a while.
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TheBiggestBob



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, thanks for the quick reponse. Just wanted to make sure they really exist before I pay them any money and they disappear into the darkness.
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tttompatz



Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be prepared for the hard sell. Time-share condo salesmen have nothing on those guys.

Also be aware that there have been (hearsay) reports that they will ask you to work illegally during your job placement.

And lastly, "ONLY A FOOL" would pay to be placed into a job when there are so many to be had with nothing more than a Google search. Never PAY for a job placement. The schools pay them and you are the commodity being sold.

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MaiPenRai



Joined: 17 Jan 2006
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Location: BKK

PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

American TESOL (ATI) are legit and have been running their Teach&Travel program in THailand for about 5 years now. A few things to note.

1. The industry standard for a TEFL cert. is 120 hours + at least hours of observed teaching practice. As a previous manager who hired teachers, less than 120 hours for a TEFL cert meant nothing in an application package.

2. THe guartanteed placements will most likely be in smaller communities, NOT in Bangkok or other more touristy locations. Expect to have little to no say in your placement.

3. ATI basically sell their grads to recruitment companies who in turn place the teachers in their contracted schools.

4. You will not get your cert. if you dont finish the 4-5 month guaranteed placement.

5. I have heard that the actual course they run is ok to good depending on which trainers you get. When deciding on a TEFL course, you should always ask about the trainers qualifications and experience and it would be good to speak with the trainers as well.

Best of Luck.
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TheBiggestBob



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, it sounds like it might be better to go over there and start looking for a job myself rather than try organise something beforehand. Is it relatively easy to find a job in Bangkok say in early to mid May. From what I have read this seems to be a good time to start looking for work.

On the other hand, the 5 day course might add to my credentials.

For me this is a first time job in ESL and the 4-5 month contract sounded like a good option to test the waters.

Thanks for the replies, helping me out alot.
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheBiggestBob wrote:
Ok, it sounds like it might be better to go over there and start looking for a job myself rather than try organise something beforehand. Is it relatively easy to find a job in Bangkok say in early to mid May. From what I have read this seems to be a good time to start looking for work.

On the other hand, the 5 day course might add to my credentials.

For me this is a first time job in ESL and the 4-5 month contract sounded like a good option to test the waters.

Thanks for the replies, helping me out alot.


A 5-day "intro to / orientation" course does NOTHING for you in terms of credentials or improving your CV.

IF you have a degree (in anything) there are LOTS of jobs to be had. Peak times to land an entry level job are NOW and will continue until the end of May. (school term starts in mid May). Boots on the ground and go to work.

If you don't have a degree and you think that a 60 hour course with a quicky "orientation" will get you a LEGAL job you are dreaming.

You would work (illegally) on a tourist visa with occasional border runs (at your expense) to keep your visa status. You WON'T get a "B" visa and Work Permit with only a 60 hour TESOL cert. and no degree.

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TheBiggestBob



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice, sounds like I'll be entering the country at a good time.

I have the basic qualifications for ESL work which is a 4 year degree and a TEFL cert.

Cheers.
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