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SQU application in Aug. ?

 
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silverdolls



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:03 pm    Post subject: SQU application in Aug. ? Reply with quote

I will be getting my MA in Applied Ling. degree sometime in July. Will it be too late to apply at SQU by August? Thank you.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not to late to apply "for" August, but very likely much too late to be hired for August. Laughing SQU is almost never desperate enough for teachers to have to do such a quick hire. If you graduate in the summer, your best chance to get a job will be for second semester. And, I haven't noticed that they have been doing much mid-year hiring lately.

And just in case you were thinking to apply before you finish the MA... don't. You risk the strong chance that it will not be recognized until after the end of your first contract... and you will be hired on the lower scale.

BTW... in the past, it was a requirement at SQU that you had to have one year of teaching experience AFTER the MA. So, this might be another glitch if it is still in effect.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
It's not to late to apply "for" August, but very likely much too late to be hired for August. Laughing SQU is almost never desperate enough for teachers to have to do such a quick hire. If you graduate in the summer, your best chance to get a job will be for second semester. And, I haven't noticed that they have been doing much mid-year hiring lately.

And just in case you were thinking to apply before you finish the MA... don't. You risk the strong chance that it will not be recognized until after the end of your first contract... and you will be hired on the lower scale.

BTW... in the past, it was a requirement at SQU that you had to have one year of teaching experience AFTER the MA. So, this might be another glitch if it is still in effect.

VS


Thanks for replying. Do you mean that I can work at SQU with just a BA but on the lower pay scale? I saw on their website that they need at least BA with pgdip or MA with 0 experience for English Instructors.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could apply, but you may or may not be hired. For instance, if they have applicants with an MA plus experience or a BA/CELTA/lots of experience, you would be way down the list.

The reality is that applying - before or after your MA is complete - is no guarantee of a job. SQU is the primo job in Oman, so there is plenty of competition for jobs there.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:13 am    Post subject: re: working there Reply with quote

VS are you, at present, working in Seeb?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are anticipating being short-staffed in the fall, so much so that they are even offering short-term contracts, and teachers received an email encouraging us to tell friends & contacts to apply. They might, just might, need & be willing to do quick hires. (The shortage may only affect the fall semester, though... course loads are always lighter in the spring.)

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are they going to a local hire/"adjunct" type of system Denise? Every fall semester these universities invariably have more students than they expected... a teacher or two that didn't show... etc - questions that they can't know until days before classes start. But, immediate foreign hires for these positions are nearly impossible.

For silverdoll's information, how many teachers these days don't have MAs? I know that a number even have PhDs in the Language Center.

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urbanversion



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:45 pm    Post subject: re: ba, ma Reply with quote

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For silverdoll's information, how many teachers these days don't have MAs?


Does it even matter? My BA doesn't even qualify me to clean the toilets in a school in the West, yet recruiters are falling a**e over t** to get westerners over, and get the recruiting fee...blame the system, not the unemployment problems in the west...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn�t hurt to apply. While SQU usually has plenty of applicants, sometimes teachers hired accept and then change their mind at the last minute, or the personnel department is extremely slow processing the visa and people give up in frustration and go somewhere else.

Remember, as usual in the Middle East, the only teaching experience that counts in assigning your pay grade is that done after the Masters. As a new MA, you would probably be on the lower end of the pay scale.

The problem with staffing at SQU is that in the fall they need many more teachers than they do in the spring because of the way the students move through the system. SQU needs to stagger enrollment so that one group of students begins the foundation program in the fall and another group starts in the spring. Every time this idea is brought up it is shot down by management as impossible to sell to the administration.

Short-term contracts in the fall will probably only be offered to local hires for one semester, though I�ve heard some teachers are trying to get the Language Center to let former staff come back for one semester on consultant contracts. It seems like a good solution to me. The LC would get dependable, experienced teachers and teachers who weren�t quite ready to dive into full retirement could teach one semester and then have 8 months of the year for other projects.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:13 am    Post subject: Re: re: ba, ma Reply with quote

urbanversion wrote:
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For silverdoll's information, how many teachers these days don't have MAs?


Does it even matter? My BA doesn't even qualify me to clean the toilets in a school in the West, yet recruiters are falling a**e over t** to get westerners over, and get the recruiting fee...blame the system, not the unemployment problems in the west...

We're talking about SQU. They don't use recruiters.

Your comment is irrelevant to my post and this thread.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lostdegaine wrote:
The problem with staffing at SQU is that in the fall they need many more teachers than they do in the spring because of the way the students move through the system. SQU needs to stagger enrollment so that one group of students begins the foundation program in the fall and another group starts in the spring. Every time this idea is brought up it is shot down by management as impossible to sell to the administration.

I suspect that who it is impossible to sell to are the students and their parents. What are the new secondary school grads to do for that semester? I found that they were all in a big hurry to get their degree.

The idea of using the retired teachers is a good one.

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