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Hsinchuguy



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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 1:47 am    Post subject: Teaching in Myanmar Reply with quote

I was wondering if anyone had any experience with teaching in Myanmar. I''d like to know the details; pay, housing and so on.
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Skyblue2



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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Housing is expensive for expats now. Sadly. It used to be OK. That's going to be most of your paycheck gone. Inflation has made it a much less attractive place to work (like Vietnam and even lowly Cambodia).
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globalcitizen



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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 4:41 am    Post subject: teaching in Myanmar Reply with quote

Hi, I was teaching there for 10 weeks in 2008. The school is called Horizon, I did their summer camp from March to May. I was in Mandalay, they have a school in Yangon as well.
We lived in a great hotel (paid by Horizon) , got free rides to and from school, free lunch and 600 dollars for a month paid in US dollars. If you want to know more, feel free to ask.
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Skyblue2



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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: teaching in Myanmar Reply with quote

globalcitizen wrote:
Hi, I was teaching there for 10 weeks in 2008. The school is called Horizon, I did their summer camp from March to May. I was in Mandalay, they have a school in Yangon as well.
We lived in a great hotel (paid by Horizon) , got free rides to and from school, free lunch and 600 dollars for a month paid in US dollars. If you want to know more, feel free to ask.

The hotel sounds great. It's a pity the salary is so low.
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Hsinchuguy



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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info. It sounds like it's not worth it. In terms of savings potential, which is better, Vietnam or Cambodia?
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deessell2



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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horizon School is part of the Gulen Movement which is a Turkish/Islamic cult. I would do some research on the movement and decide whether I wanted to help the Burmese or aid in the revival of the Ottoman Empire.

They are highly controversial in Turkey and also have over 120 Charter Schools in the US which are coming under scrutiny. I have experience at another of their "educational facilities" elsewhere in Asia.
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Skyblue2



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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hsinchuguy wrote:
Thanks for the info. It sounds like it's not worth it. In terms of savings potential, which is better, Vietnam or Cambodia?

Both are feeling the squeeze of inflation, Vietnam because it's currency is manipulated, Cambodia because it mainly uses the greenback.

Schools in neither country are likely to pay your rent or give you a free flight. In Cambodia, you are likely to have to accept hourly pay and you may have to work at more than one school. Since Cambodia has the most public holidays in the world, this means that there will be lots of time with no pay whatsoever.

Overall, the hourly rate and monthly salaries are considerably higher in Vietnam. Even with higher rent prices and more things to spend your money on there, you will probably be able to save more in Vietnam.

The one advantage of Cambodia (for some people) is it's lack of bureaucracy. You don't need a degree to teach. You don't need a background check. Visas are simple to obtain (but you will probably have to pay for it yourself, to the tune of nearly two hundred dollars a year). Vietnam vets its teachers a bit more thoroughly.
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Overhere100



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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 10:27 am    Post subject: Teaching in Burma Reply with quote

Financially the cost of living has rocketed by around 20% and the exchange rate against the dollar is dire! Schools to avoid are ILBC - who cheat and break so-called contracts, despise the foreigners they hire and have appalling teaching conditions, MISY who fire at whim on age, nationality etc... and ISM - who are ageist i.e. you need to be under 35. There are no labor laws protecting foreigners working here. Only take a job that offers medical coverage (getting medi-vacced out costs a fortune), a return air ticket and paid vacations. ILBC tries to shove people into a cut-price rundown slum without water and electricity half the time to save money and accommodation at other schools varies. You need to pay at least $600-900 a month plus bills to get anything half-way decent. Landlords require 6-12 months rent in advance. You also have to leave the country every 10 weeks to get a new visa which becomes an expensive pain as some of the schools don't cover the full cost of these trips.
I am off to Vietnam as figure better savings there and certainly better living conditions with regular Internet and phone service (not available in Burma as Internet is regularly blocked and slow).

Good luck!
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ladymadonna



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deessell2 wrote:
Horizon School is part of the Gulen Movement which is a Turkish/Islamic cult. I would do some research on the movement and decide whether I wanted to help the Burmese or aid in the revival of the Ottoman Empire.

They are highly controversial in Turkey and also have over 120 Charter Schools in the US which are coming under scrutiny. I have experience at another of their "educational facilities" elsewhere in Asia.


According to Wikipedia, Gulen sounds not just benign but a true positive force in the world. A reception at the House of Lord, meeting with the pope, atheists and agnostics on the advisory board, schools with full scholarships, etc. Certainly no reason NOT to take a job at Horizon.
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bentanddisfunctional



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Myanmar is getting more expensive,certainly much more than Thailand.

The kyat has depreciated signifigantly against the U.S $ and with fuel and electricity subsidies being reduced/removed and the opening up of the country to foreign investment/personel and anticipated NGO invasion the cost of living for expats will likely rise signifigantly as demand for housing increases in a tight market like Yangon.

However with a bit of door knocking it is still possible to find an apartment or modest house in the $200-$400/month range depending on your expectations.

Decent 'International' schools pay between $1700-$2500 plus a housing allowance,and cover your visa runs so despite the increase in costs it should be still possible to have a decent standard of living and put away some money for a rainy day.

It's not all doom and gloom Surprised
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Teachurrrr



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:13 am    Post subject: ILBC is just alright with me! Reply with quote

MOD EDIT:

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