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aimee821 · Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 12

Hi all,

Well, i really want to teach in Ireland when I finish my degree next year--and I thought maybe I could gain dual citizenship though my great--grandfather---and I may still be able to---but if I don't what can I do nothing---I mena aside form marrying someone Irish---can anyone help--I eman how do people work there---if not a citizen we don't have a shot--I have head it may be possible if their is a shortage of teachers or soemthing---Anyone have any advice or experience with this? Thanks so much....... :

naturegirl321 · Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home

You can get citizenship if your grandparent was acitizen. otherwise it's hard to get ajob there unless you are very very qualified.

aimee821 · Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 12

well, in what way could I become very qualified----get my masters as well? I am considering it----so that would really help,ha? Also, it was my great--grandfather-and possibly my grandfather--waiting to find out---do you think they have a shortage of teachers there---Ive heard they do in England--i would go there too---but prefer Ireland..........

lajzar · Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Posts: 647 Location: Saitama-ken, Japan

There is a shortage of teachers (but NOT EFL teachers) in the UK. However, unless you have qualified teacher status, which is unlikely as you say you have not yet finished your degree, you aren't eligible for these jobs.

aimee821 · Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 12

I am not palnning on going until I finish my degree lazjar.......
that wouldn't make any sense........

and the reason I asked is because my major is English---and I am considering switching to teaching ----or becoming certified.....that is why I asked......maybe I should have been more explicit....and I am sure if I find out how do it I can become "more qualified"

naturegirl321 · Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home

Get a real teaching creditial, like a PGCE, or a BEd or a Grad Dip, it will make you a qualified teacher.

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

As well as certification, there is another hurdle to getting a teaching job in the Republic of Ireland. Could you pass the exam in Irish that is mandatory for all government jobs ? How good is your Gaelic ?

This is not a requirement in Northern Ireland as far as I know - but I am not sure about teaching in a catholic school.

A great-grandfather born in Ireland is not enough for Irish citizenship. has to be a grandparent.

aimee821 · Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 12

I am sorry to correct you---but you are in fact not correct here is an email to me from the Irish Gov't....and I do not have to pass the an Irish Test to qualify as a teacher in many circumstances......I wonder why now I ever posted here.......Here is proof that I may qualify.....sorry....

Dear Aimee,

Thank you for your e-mail which was received by the OASIS Irish Government
website yesterday evening, Monday 29th March, 2004.

Just to quickly come back to you Aimee, you mentioned that your great
grandfather was an Irish citizen who emigrated to the USA. �Your grandfather
would then have been an Irish citizen and from an Irish perspective - he was
entitled to hold dual citizenship. �In other words, (Irish and US citizenship).
As your grandfather was already an Irish citizen, he did not have to apply for
this citizenship - it was granted to him by virture of the fact that your
great-grandfather was an Irish citizen.
As we have already explained in our documents on Irish citizenship - Irish
citizenship passes through 3 generations. �From grandparent, to parent to child.
This is quite a complex area but we have done our best to explain all of the
issues involved, in a document on our site called 'Irish Citizenship through
Birth or Descent'. �You can read through this document here:
http://www.oasis.gov.ie/moving_country/migration_and_citizenship/irish_citizenship_through_birth_or_descent.html

In addition Aimee, I would strongly recommend that you get in touch with your
nearest Irish embassy or Consulate in the USA for more information.
You can find contact information for your nearest Irish embassy/Consulate here:
http://foreignaffairs.gov.ie/embassies/default.asp?m=e

On another note, it is not a requirement that you hold Irish citizenship in
order to work in Ireland. �Again, your nearest Irish embassy or Consulate will
be able
to advise you on your options and to provide further information and advice.

Thank you again for your e-mail Aimee. �I hope the above information has been of
assistance and that you find the document on our site useful.

Kind regards and I hope you will choose to come back and visit us at OASIS again
soon,

OASIS (www.oasis.gov.ie)

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

Really ?
If I were you I would get a copy of "Teach Yourself Irish Gaelic".

aimee821 · Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 12

you know what scottie---if I really really had to---I would---Iknow 3 languages now---so, if it were necessary I would do it---but I appreciate encouragement from people like u---b/c if not for kind thoughts from people like you then the rest of us wouldnt have the motivation to say---"ha! yes I can"--so thanks--take care

Irish Blood English Heart · Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:59 pm Post subject:

woohoo I can speak a little bit of gaelic, its not that hard to learn the basics to be honest. Once you get Irish citizenship you can work anywhere in the EU so if I was you after seeing Ireland thoroughly hop on a plane to London or if you want to teach ESL consider the emerging EU nations such as Poland and the Czech Republic.

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

Poland - an "emerging" nation ?

I think you need to look at your history books again !

Poland was a State when North America was still being run by the Red Indians !

Irish Blood English Heart · Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:14 pm Post subject:

You fool!! I meant in the EU sence since its joining the EU on May the 1st and will be opening up to European trade and freedom of movement!!

By Jaysus i'm not a dumbo but the countries that are joining the EU on May the 1st are labled as "emerging EU nations" by our press, government etc etc so I hardly think im being idiotic referring to Poland in the same terms!

scot47 · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343

Well, if you are so smart

1. why use profanity in a public post ?

2..why are you not a university graduate ?

Irish Blood English Heart · Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 9:15 am Post subject:

Why are you launching an attack on me? You're the one who went off on one about me calling Poland an "emerging nation" without paying any attention to the context of the label,

And where am I using a profanity?

And as for your second remark it is completely out of order, you know nothing of my personal situation or why I couldnt finish my degree and to make such a judgement is horrible of you and uncalled for.

Perhaps in the 2nd year of your degree you'd like your fiance to start seeing other people so you have no choice to move out, your parents to split up, stop recieving financial support, sink into a depression which stops you getting out of bed in the morning nevermind having to work 25 hours a week just to pay the rent and eat.

I am more than capable of getting a degree and when I am 25 and eligable for mature student status and subsidised fees (i.e. not 8,000 pounds a year [$15000]) then I shall go back to University. In the meantime though it just isnt financially viable in any way, shape or form.

Not that I need to justify myself to someone who launches into an attack on a post which was meant as help for someone who asked about Irish citizenship. Perhaps with people like you on the board who will attack people for nothing I will have to think twice before contributing Sad