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While I was out · Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 119

Hi. Does anyone have any experience of working with Vaughan Systems? Or know any second or thirdhand info, maybe your pal worked there Smile

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Website looks good and the pay/hours look reasonable at first glance.

I'm an EU cit so no need to worry about that.

While I was out · Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 119

Nothing, no information at all? No rumours or anything? Ah well. Laughing

Moore · Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 730 Location: Madrid

I don't know a huge amount about them, so this is all on hearsay from teachers and students.

They're a big company with a radio station and TV channel in Madrid. They have their own method which focuses encouraging the student to talk with the teachers role being pretty tightly scrpited and controlled (a bit like other chain schools such as Inlingua). They give decent full schedules and the pay is pretty good, but for full working weeks.

The main thing from a potential new-arrivals point of view is that they're legit. Whether they're a good company to work for is another matter, but I haven't heard any horror stories either.

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Pauleddy · Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 295 Location: The Big Mango

Yes, they have a "method", and I am led to believe that there is a strict training, possibly unpaid (rumour) AND WHICH some people fail (fact).

The money is quite good but they want hard work, which includes teaching at weekend residentials.

There are mixed comments on sites. Some people like to be "big brothered", some don't. The negative comments seem to be preponderant.

eddy

While I was out · Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 119

Thank you for your replies. They certainly want their money's worth, like you say Moore, they would seem to be a legit operation for the newly arrived teacher.

Pauleddy, you seem to be sceptical of their "method". Can you tell me the sites where you've seen reports?

smccartney · Joined: 25 Feb 2010 Posts: 24

My understanding is that they are a splinter group from Pueblo Ingles. They seem to run a very similar operation.

Stephen

lennon146 · Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 55 Location: Latin America

I applied to them, but never worked for them. They wanted me to do unpaid training (something like 2 - 4 weeks) and said there was a 60% pass rate. As a qualified teacher with four years' experience, I just found that insulting. They also advertise pay of "up to 3000 euros", which anyone teaching in Spain will tell you is pretty much impossible.

luckyface_84 · Joined: 04 Mar 2010 Posts: 2

hello:)
I am not a native English speaker but I have MA in English philology and I am English teacher do you think that this is possible to get a job in Vaughan?Thanks

bje · Joined: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 527

No- and why would you want to, after the preceding discussion? However, if their pay is as stated on their website, they will be expecting native speakers with relatively solid ELT training and experience.

spiral78 · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash

but I have MA in English philology and I am English teacher

Shocked

can you teach articles?

spiral78 · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash

disconnected with using them, I suppose....

luckyface_84 · Joined: 04 Mar 2010 Posts: 2

While I was out · Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 119

Soooo, has anyone had an interview or got a job with the Vaughans?

Old Bill · Joined: 05 Apr 2010 Posts: 1

Vaughan do have their own method, so they prefer people with no teaching experience so that teachers stick to their method. The training is quite intense and strict. If you veer from or question the system they will kick you off the course. They tell you how to do it and that is how you will do it. Their expectations in that regard are very high.

The students mark the teachers on a number of areas, if you don't average 5/6, and that is in training and while working, they can get rid of you. You can expect to lose half the people on each course.

Having said that once you get out working it is not so bad. You have little preparation to do apart from at first when you have to sort out some drills within the system. Support is quite good and I had no complaints about them as an employer. However you can find that you have a 4 hour class with one student which can seem daunting but often turns out to be fun.

The pay is good if you are on a contract although hours may be irregular if you are autonimo. They speed up your NIE and pay half the costs but will only take you if you are already legal to work in Spain, EU citizen or work permit.

The university program is meant to be OK and most I trained with did that and as far as I understand are still there.

While I was out · Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 119

Old Bill, thanks for the information. Quite informative. Are you still working for them? Would you know if they have a lot of applicants at the moment?

Sorry for the extra questions Smile