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Solid Scotsman



Joined: 14 Apr 2011
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Location: Arizona

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:58 pm    Post subject: Family of 5 looking at HK Reply with quote

Hello,
An American here looking at Hong Kong as a future teaching job. Currently I have my Master's in TESL and 6 years teaching experience stateside.

Interviewing with Teach Away and, though I know nothing's guaranteed, just had some questions about HK living expenses and salaries.

1. Salary is estimated between $22,985 - HK$48,400 per month not including a 14,245 living expense. Does this seem like a reasonable amount to live fairly comfortably with a family of five? My wife won't be working because my eldest is 5 years old, and my wife wants to homeschool the three of my kiddos to cut costs.

2. I know to not expect Western Style living accommodations (read: teensy Asian apartments), but we are looking to get a two bedroom place at the least. Does the 14,245 seem like enough to cover that sort of housing?

3. Is Teach Away a legit organization? I know it's ultimately up to the schools who gets hired where, but I'm wondering if I'm getting the best benefits for my experience?

4. Finally, I know the schools allow a teensy bit of say in where one works and lives, what would be recommended for a family of five?

5. (Really I promise this will be the last of my initial questions lol!) Am I insane to think that I could afford to decently support my fam of five on a HK ESL salary?
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Joshua2006



Joined: 04 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:05 am    Post subject: Re: Family of 5 looking at HK Reply with quote

Solid Scotsman wrote:
Hello,
An American here looking at Hong Kong as a future teaching job. Currently I have my Master's in TESL and 6 years teaching experience stateside.

Interviewing with Teach Away and, though I know nothing's guaranteed, just had some questions about HK living expenses and salaries.

1. Salary is estimated between $22,985 - HK$48,400 per month not including a 14,245 living expense. Does this seem like a reasonable amount to live fairly comfortably with a family of five? My wife won't be working because my eldest is 5 years old, and my wife wants to homeschool the three of my kiddos to cut costs.
It depends which end of the scale you are on. At the upper end, then probably no problem. On the lower end, then you'll find it hard. A master's in TESL may not put you too high as it isn't a B.Ed. or PGCE which is what the EdB seem to look for as far as qualifications are concerned.....

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2. I know to not expect Western Style living accommodations (read: teensy Asian apartments), but we are looking to get a two bedroom place at the least. Does the 14,245 seem like enough to cover that sort of housing?
Depends where you are entirely. Smack in the middle of town, then no. Up on the Gold Coast and that could get you a lot more than just two bedrooms.

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3. Is Teach Away a legit organization? I know it's ultimately up to the schools who gets hired where, but I'm wondering if I'm getting the best benefits for my experience?
Can't help with that one, sorry.

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4. Finally, I know the schools allow a teensy bit of say in where one works and lives, what would be recommended for a family of five?
What are you used to and what are you expecting? Everywhere has everything really, it just depends on the density of those facilities and amenities....

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5. (Really I promise this will be the last of my initial questions lol!) Am I insane to think that I could afford to decently support my fam of five on a HK ESL salary?
Are you the frugal sort? If so, then no problem. As mentioned, it depends where you are on the pay scale that will make all the difference.
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sistercream



Joined: 18 Dec 2010
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Location: Pearl River Delta

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about TeachAway, but a few other random comments -
as well as which end of the pay scale you are on, how you would manage financially would depend on where your assigned school is and where you live. For instance, if you want to live within walking/ easy commuting distance of a school on HK island or central Kowloon it would be VERY difficult to fit you budget and your family in the same equation (by the way, "typical" 2nd bedrooms here are between 36 and 50 ft sq - even with double bunks it takes a LOT of juggling to fit 3 in that space). But if you end up in the outer New Territories or on one of the islands you could even get a place with a small yard for the same money.

Home schooling is technically illegal in Hong Kong, but the government cuts some slack to expats as waiting lists for international schools are so long.
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Solid Scotsman



Joined: 14 Apr 2011
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotcha guys thanks. We might start leaning towards the UAE. My wife really wants to homeschool our kids since we're looking at being globetrotters. Our ultimate goal is mainland China, but I'm worried that might be too extreme for our little ones (age range of my three 4 months-5 years).
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Zero



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I will get flamed as usual for saying this, but Hong Kong is known as the graveyard of expat marriages. And mainland China is just as bad if not worse. If you want a place that will be gentle on the marriage, I recommend the Middle East.
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Joshua2006



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero wrote:
Maybe I will get flamed as usual for saying this, but Hong Kong is known as the graveyard of expat marriages. And mainland China is just as bad if not worse. If you want a place that will be gentle on the marriage, I recommend the Middle East.

Not flaming exactly, but I have never ever heard anything about HK killing off marriages.....the people I know are all exceptionally happy as evertything they do and everyone they know they do and know together...the Middle East? Isn't that the place where women are seen as third class citizens...? By keeping her locked up out os sight of society you are bound to save the marriage too?
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oxi



Joined: 16 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero wrote:
Maybe I will get flamed as usual for saying this, but Hong Kong is known as the graveyard of expat marriages. And mainland China is just as bad if not worse. If you want a place that will be gentle on the marriage, I recommend the Middle East.


I worked in Saudi before, and HK now. I wouldn't want to take my wife to Saudi - nowt for her to do. Here in HK, we're both happy.

I guess the marriage breakers are:-
1. Saudi - boring for men, extremely boring for women.
2. HK - pretty Asian girls

Personally I know more couples who broke up because of 1, than of 2.
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Serious_Fun



Joined: 28 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="oxi"]
Zero wrote:

I guess the marriage breakers are:-
1. Saudi - boring for men, extremely boring for women.
2. HK - pretty Asian girls


HK is pretty damned boring too, after a few years here. The quality of life in this city is not good...thus the high wages.

I'd love to make my salary in a friendly city with clean air to breathe. Rolling Eyes
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