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teacher12344
Joined: 08 Apr 2011
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 Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 2:08 pm Post subject: Harbin Dayang Foreign Language School |
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| Does anyone know anything about Harbin Dayang Foreign Language School? |
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mister_kot
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 2:11 am Post subject: |
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I worked there for six months a year and a half ago. I would highly recommend you not touch that place with a 30 foot pole.
The owner there is 'fine' crazy. You have to show up an hour early. 'Office hours' there are strictly enforced. If you have a class at 9am and no more classes until 6pm, you can leave for a one hour lunch break, but you must come back or suffer a massive fine.
If you have a class, but no students show up (happened a lot to me because they had a shortage of students), you must stay for the entire class time or suffer a massive fine.
Teachers may not sit in class. If you do sit you will be fined. The list goes on and on. None of these fines were on my contract when I signed up, but 6 months later, I was asked to sign a supplementary contract filled with sticks but no carrots. I chose to leave.
Teachers there are generally overworked and upset. There's extremely high turnover. When I left, 6 other teachers foreign and Chinese left.
On top of it all, you will be forced to learn the Callan Method which is a 60 year-old teaching method that goes against whatever you might have learned in a TESOL or CELTA if you took one.
It's a place to be avoided.
It used to be called 'Modern English'. You can find more info on it by that name.
There are many better places. Even EF is better. |
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catinthehatter
Joined: 04 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 3:46 am Post subject: |
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| mister_kot wrote: |
I worked there for six months a year and a half ago. I would highly recommend you not touch that place with a 30 foot pole.
The owner there is 'fine' crazy. You have to show up an hour early. 'Office hours' there are strictly enforced. If you have a class at 9am and no more classes until 6pm, you can leave for a one hour lunch break, but you must come back or suffer a massive fine.
If you have a class, but no students show up (happened a lot to me because they had a shortage of students), you must stay for the entire class time or suffer a massive fine.
Teachers may not sit in class. If you do sit you will be fined. The list goes on and on. None of these fines were on my contract when I signed up, but 6 months later, I was asked to sign a supplementary contract filled with sticks but no carrots. I chose to leave.
Teachers there are generally overworked and upset. There's extremely high turnover. When I left, 6 other teachers foreign and Chinese left.
On top of it all, you will be forced to learn the Callan Method which is a 60 year-old teaching method that goes against whatever you might have learned in a TESOL or CELTA if you took one.
It's a place to be avoided.
It used to be called 'Modern English'. You can find more info on it by that name.
There are many better places. Even EF is better. |
If you're too sick or too lazy to stand then you shouldn't be a teacher
You're being paid to do your job and be at the school. If your class is canceled, etc. then you have a responsibility to be at the facility to earn your money. If you're being paid, why shouldn't you be there?
If you don't want to be there, then sign a contract where everyone knows you are present during and only during teaching time.
If you don't want to teach the "Callan" method then don't sign a contract at a facility that uses it.
Sounds to me like the respondent didn't do "his" homework prior to employment.
I've heard little to nothing about this facility, but it's up to you to interview THEM to find out what you need. Please don't take anything this respondent says, as it is clearly trivial and nitpicking issues that have no bearing on a professional work relationship with the facility. |
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chinanoodles
Joined: 13 May 2011
Posts: 74
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 4:01 am Post subject: |
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| catinthehatter wrote: |
| mister_kot wrote: |
I worked there for six months a year and a half ago. I would highly recommend you not touch that place with a 30 foot pole.
The owner there is 'fine' crazy. You have to show up an hour early. 'Office hours' there are strictly enforced. If you have a class at 9am and no more classes until 6pm, you can leave for a one hour lunch break, but you must come back or suffer a massive fine.
If you have a class, but no students show up (happened a lot to me because they had a shortage of students), you must stay for the entire class time or suffer a massive fine.
Teachers may not sit in class. If you do sit you will be fined. The list goes on and on. None of these fines were on my contract when I signed up, but 6 months later, I was asked to sign a supplementary contract filled with sticks but no carrots. I chose to leave.
Teachers there are generally overworked and upset. There's extremely high turnover. When I left, 6 other teachers foreign and Chinese left.
On top of it all, you will be forced to learn the Callan Method which is a 60 year-old teaching method that goes against whatever you might have learned in a TESOL or CELTA if you took one.
It's a place to be avoided.
It used to be called 'Modern English'. You can find more info on it by that name.
There are many better places. Even EF is better. |
If you're too sick or too lazy to stand then you shouldn't be a teacher
You're being paid to do your job and be at the school. If your class is canceled, etc. then you have a responsibility to be at the facility to earn your money. If you're being paid, why shouldn't you be there?
If you don't want to be there, then sign a contract where everyone knows you are present during and only during teaching time.
If you don't want to teach the "Callan" method then don't sign a contract at a facility that uses it.
Sounds to me like the respondent didn't do "his" homework prior to employment.
I've heard little to nothing about this facility, but it's up to you to interview THEM to find out what you need. Please don't take anything this respondent says, as it is clearly trivial and nitpicking issues that have no bearing on a professional work relationship with the facility. |
I would not call his issues nitpicking. Fines not listed in the initial contract, being forced to stand for who knows how long, and retarded office hours.
Sure, perhaps you could make a point that that guy should have asked better questions during his interview or not singed the supplemental contract. However, as I see it, he just made others aware of his experiences there. Maybe this will allow the OP to ask better questions during his own interview.
The OP asked if anyone knew of the school. A person who worked there replied with his thoughts and experiences. Isn't that what this place is for? |
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7969
Joined: 26 Mar 2003
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Location: Coastal Guangdong
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 4:07 am Post subject: |
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| catinthehatter wrote: |
| mister_kot wrote: |
I worked there for six months a year and a half ago. I would highly recommend you not touch that place with a 30 foot pole.
The owner there is 'fine' crazy. You have to show up an hour early. 'Office hours' there are strictly enforced. If you have a class at 9am and no more classes until 6pm, you can leave for a one hour lunch break, but you must come back or suffer a massive fine.
If you have a class, but no students show up (happened a lot to me because they had a shortage of students), you must stay for the entire class time or suffer a massive fine.
Teachers may not sit in class. If you do sit you will be fined. ... |
If you're too sick or too lazy to stand then you shouldn't be a teacher |
Nothing wrong with sitting down. Don't try and tell me someone can't teach as well sitting as they can standing. |
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