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Any work available for a Canadian in a francophone country?

 
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santi84



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 3:12 am    Post subject: Any work available for a Canadian in a francophone country? Reply with quote

Aside from the obvious, Quebec, is there any work abroad for a Canadian in a francophone country (ie. France, North Africa, etc). I would be bringing my husband and son (toddler) and I am not concerned about making much money (preferably not in the hole). Qualifications... not much Confused I have a degree (thematic option in TESL, no major offered but they put one together for me) and a TESL certificate (one year post-graduate certificate) and a few months experience (full-time) teaching to immigrant adults as well as 13-17 year olds (mixed levels).

I think I'm dreaming but I hope someone can prove me wrong!
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Majuro



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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm Canadian and I've been working in France for almost 3 years. I barely make enough to support myself, forget about supporting 2 other people. Especially if your husband is sponsored under your work visa he will be prohibited from working, so it's all on you.

France is not the easiest country in which to find a language school to sponsor your work visa. What does your husband do? It might be easier for him to find a job and then sponsor you.
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you looked into getting a teaching license and working at international schools ? That might open doors for you.
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santi84



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Majuro wrote:
I'm Canadian and I've been working in France for almost 3 years. I barely make enough to support myself, forget about supporting 2 other people. Especially if your husband is sponsored under your work visa he will be prohibited from working, so it's all on you.

France is not the easiest country in which to find a language school to sponsor your work visa. What does your husband do? It might be easier for him to find a job and then sponsor you.


Thank you Majuro. I should have mentioned that I'm not looking to make much or any money at all, I suppose it is more of a learning experience for me as I never went abroad to teach TEFL (I teach TESL in Canada). My husband doesn't plan to work, he will be taking a year off of his current job (he is RCMP so he won't be able to get a job abroad due to citizenship requirements for his position).

France would be the ultimate dream but as you already state, it's not the easiest country to get work in. My husband would love it there though (he is francophone). We're not in any urgent position here, so maybe I can spend several months, even years, exploring this option Smile I'm still only 26 so hopefully I can use that to my advantage with a working holiday visa.
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santi84



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
Have you looked into getting a teaching license and working at international schools ? That might open doors for you.


Thank you naturegirl! I am looking at doing a second degree (in education to get my teaching license) but that will take me another three years so it will be a good 5 years before that happens (although it is certainly a dream of mine!). Thank you for the PMs.
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

santi84 wrote:
My husband doesn't plan to work, he will be taking a year off of his current job (he is RCMP so he won't be able to get a job abroad due to citizenship requirements for his position).

France would be the ultimate dream but as you already state, it's not the easiest country to get work in. My husband would love it there though (he is francophone). We're not in any urgent position here, so maybe I can spend several months, even years, exploring this option Smile I'm still only 26 so hopefully I can use that to my advantage with a working holiday visa.


WHVs might be possible, though if you're married, I'm not so sure if you can get them. You havea a child right? I don't think you could get some of them since they require that you have no dependents.

Are you looking at a short stint, like a camp, or do you want to do this long term?

Speaking from experience, uprooting your husband can be hard. Add kids to that and it gets harder. I suppose the advantage (or maybe disadvantage) I have is that I earn more, and always have, than my husband so in a way he kind of has to follow me for now. Not that I ddin't do the same for him. I stayed in his country for 6 years. ANd if he got a job that paid more than I did and gave him the same benefits I'd be more than happy to follow him.

Moving abroad is tough. Be prepared for what can happen. My husband left me and went back to his country for five months before coming back to Asia.

Anyways, if you're looking short term, look into the teaching assistant programme for France. If it's long term, then intl schools may be your best bet.
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Trinley



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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you heard of Amideast? They hire EFL teachers in Morocco and Tunisia, in addition to non-francophone countries in the Middle East and North Africa. The organization is intended for US-Middle East relations, but I read in the FAQ that non-US citizens can be hired to teach as well. Seems like you're qualified according to their standards.

http://www.amideast.org/tunisia/english/teach-tunisia

I did the assistantship program in France. It was a very isolating experience. Pay is very low, and most people think they're going to end up in Paris or other big cities and then find themselves in remote villages where there's nothing to do, no other jobs to boost income, and a train ride to the city may cost your family 100 euros -- an eighth of your salary. Rent costs maybe 400, leaving you with 300 measly euros a month for food, transportation, and vacations. I hate to be a downer, but it was a disappointing experience for me and the other assistants in my area. It's a drag being in the countryside with no money or car. You can always apply and see if they place you in a city though.

By the way, even though it sounds like you've ruled out Quebec, I lived in Montreal for 2 years and loved it. There was a lot of work opportunity as an ESL teacher, and my French improved so much. Yes, some people speak 'joual', which is hard to understand at first, but many people speak more standard French, and I personally don't feel that Quebec French and France French are as drastically different as people make them out to be, having lived in both places. I prefer Quebec French myself. And I preferred Quebec to France.

My 2 cents. Very Happy
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santi84



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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much for the links, I will check them out ! Smile

Trinley: Thank you, I actually love Quebec, and I live outside Montreal but we are looking for an international experience Smile I updated my location to make that clear.
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