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Zero



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:11 pm    Post subject: What's next in life? Reply with quote

What are planning for after EFL? Or do you plan to do it until you retire? I am curious as to what people's plans are.

Do you think that most people eventually go back to their home countries? How do they get reestablished?
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1st Sgt Welsh



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After I finish my PhD, I'm planning of getting a post-graduate teaching qualification so that I can teach in international secondary schools. Subjects will be history and English (English as a subject - not as a foreign language). However, if a university position teaching history comes up that would be preferable. See what happens - things often don't turn out as you plan.

I love Australia but have no real desire to work there. Might go back when I retire.
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Zero



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only one response? (A good response it was; thanks, Sgt. Welsh!)

I take it not many people have a plan for life after ESL?
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what other people plan on doing, but I'd like to open a business.

I'm already involved in one online education business and eventually would like to go to Europe and open a hostel. But I'll be in TEFL for a while yet.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero wrote:
Only one response? (A good response it was; thanks, Sgt. Welsh!)

I take it not many people have a plan for life after ESL?

Or maybe they plan on TEFLing for life Smile
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Evanzinho



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero wrote:
What are planning for after EFL? Or do you plan to do it until you retire? I am curious as to what people's plans are.

The plan for me is to either invest the money I save teaching in Asia into a business back in the States, or invest in Real Estate. Really depends on what happens to the economy in the next couple of years.

I guess I could do it forever, if I had to.
Zero wrote:

Do you think that most people eventually go back to their home countries? How do they get reestablished?

Yeah, I think the majority do.

As far as getting reestablished is concerned, I had the same concern when I came back from Korea last year, but it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. It does take some work, but I would say just network as much as possible, talk to as many people as you can, join a bunch of groups, volunteer, whatever.

Having said that, I've decided to go back to Korea next month, so what do I know. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going back home scares me. Plus, I really like the fact that I don't have to pay taxes Smile
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, what's your plan?
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Denizen



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the reasons I left ESL in Japan after some concern that technology was passing me by. I returned to the States, bought a PC and wore my fingertips raw. Opened a business as a web designer with some success, but the market became saturated. Opened another business as a certified real estate appraiser, and the market collapsed in 2008. Then, I finished my middle school teaching certificate only to discover huge layoffs anticipated in all the states I was interested in teaching for. So...

life after ESL ain't so grand. Rather than chase another carrot, you may want to stick around a bit longer while the various economies recover in earnest.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am going to be a Speech Language Pathologist. After that I am going to try to get a job in Oikanawa or in the United Arab Emirates. If my plan doesn't work out, I will probably move back to Taiwan.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Denizen wrote:
One of the reasons I left ESL in Japan after some concern that technology was passing me by. I returned to the States, bought a PC and wore my fingertips raw. Opened a business as a web designer with some success, but the market became saturated. Opened another business as a certified real estate appraiser, and the market collapsed in 2008. Then, I finished my middle school teaching certificate only to discover huge layoffs anticipated in all the states I was interested in teaching for. So...

life after ESL ain't so grand. Rather than chase another carrot, you may want to stick around a bit longer while the various economies recover in earnest.

I�ve heard that most people have 6 careers in their lifetime. I guess the thing to remember is that when things are going good: save money!

JZer wrote:
I am going to be a Speech Language Pathologist. After that I am going to try to get a job in Oikanawa or in the United Arab Emirates. If my plan doesn't work out, I will probably move back to Taiwan.

It's always good to have backup plans. I'm looking at Saudi, Oman, or the UAE as well as a possibilty.
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fladude



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I plan to move up the chain and become a principal at an International School. I have a legal background and am teacher certified. I just need to work on some master's degrees in education (as much as I loathe degrees in education). One day I may return to Alaska to establish a Charter School or private school for Native American students who wish to preserve their own culture. I believe that the current public school system here in Alaska does not meet their needs. Realistically only a private school which does not follow a Federal mandate can offer the sort of dual American/Native education which they require in order to preserve their own cultural identity, while also providing them with a skill set which would allow them to attend college.
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Ariadne



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flatdude... how would you fund the charter school? Sounds like a good idea, but I can't see how you would be able to get the money to run it, especially if you didn't have any federal funding. Some tribes are doing well financially these days due to the casinos... are there any in your neck of the woods?

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fladude



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariadne wrote:
Flatdude... how would you fund the charter school? Sounds like a good idea, but I can't see how you would be able to get the money to run it, especially if you didn't have any federal funding. Some tribes are doing well financially these days due to the casinos... are there any in your neck of the woods?

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They don't have casinos, but they do have oil which seems to sell fairly well on most days. At least on the North Slope they have oil. Other groups have other natural resources though, such as zinc or gold or whatnot. And commodity prices are through the roof right now. So most of them have the money to do it. They simply lack the political will at the moment.

So it really depends on their political will to make it happen. That may or may not come about. Which is why I am focusing on being a principal at an International school first. Unless I have a really good reason I don't plan on ever returning to Plantation America (running a private school for Native Americans would qualify as a really good reason to return).
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nickpellatt



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero - I have no real plans. And I kinda like it that way!

I could get Qualifed Teacher Status and teach in the UK or try for International Schools, but you know what? I have zero interest in teaching subjects to native speakers.

My plan is to do whatever I can to juggle my various life commitments and stay within TEFL. After working for nearly 20 years at jobs I hated, and wasnt always very good at, I found something that a) I like, and b) am moderately OK at. I have a choice, do something I dont want to do and live a regular life......or continue to do something I love, and have a highly irregular life. For me, its a no-brainer!
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