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mTm



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Location: Bristol, UK

PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 6:35 pm    Post subject: Want to learn Mandarin / have no teaching experience Reply with quote

I'm 28 years old, English (UK) first language, with a degree in mechanical engineering.

My long-term plan is to learn Mandarin in order to broaden my set of skills and improve my employability. My current field of work (arts, specifically theatre) has recently had massive funding cuts, which is why I figured now is as good a time as any to put work on hold, leave the country and study Mandarin.

I can't afford to go to university so have decided to study by immersing myself in a culture where it is the native language, take lessons and practice on a daily basis. I'll fund to myself by teaching English - I have no teaching experience or qualifications but have successfully taught (well, mentored) in my current position.

My questions are:

>> Is this enough to get a job in Taiwan? I've seen "you only need to be white and have a degree" as one school of though, I've also seen "you need a TEFL/TESOL to get hired".

>> Am I daft to be thinking of coming to Taiwan? I visited Taipei in January and loved the place! One's instinctive though (what with my goal being to learn Mandarin) may be to go to China. However, I'm not sure if I'll be able to cope so much with the lack of an ability to queue in shops, hoards of people and overall culture shock of going to China first-off (maybe spending my first year abroad in Taiwan would be a better starting point?). Am I better off going to China (where I've heard it's easier to get a job) and if so, where would you recommend?

>> Will I have an undesirable accent by learning in Taiwan? I see myself working in Europe once I'm bilingual. A Taipei local told me the Taiwan accent is close to the American one when compared to the English one; the syllables are rolled over - does anyone agree/disagree?
[tangent=] Incidentally, this particular gentleman was sat next to me on the plane, saw me reading a guide book and proceeded to write out an itinerary for my trip, recommend places to eat/drink at during my stay and then drive me to my hotel in town. Such a beautiful and hospitable welcome-to-our-country gesture which I'm told is not uncommon. [/tangent]

Thanks in advance.
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mTm



Joined: 23 Sep 2010
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ps. I don't meant to say that the American accent is undesirable. I'm just wondering if my Mandarin accent was not authentic Chinese, would that hamper my employment prospects?
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PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 2:51 am    Post subject: Re: Want to learn Mandarin / have no teaching experience Reply with quote

mTm wrote:


My questions are:

>> Is this enough to get a job in Taiwan? I've seen "you only need to be white and have a degree" as one school of though, I've also seen "you need a TEFL/TESOL to get hired".

>> Am I daft to be thinking of coming to Taiwan? I visited Taipei in January and loved the place! One's instinctive though (what with my goal being to learn Mandarin) may be to go to China. However, I'm not sure if I'll be able to cope so much with the lack of an ability to queue in shops, hoards of people and overall culture shock of going to China first-off


To answer your questions as best I can:

>> You do not need a TESL / TEFL or secondary language cerification so long as you have a degree. This is only required if you have a College Diploma or post secondary certificate that is not a University degree.

>> People aren't much better at queuing here either. I was waiting to use a ticket machine at the high speed rail the other day while the guy behind was trying to edge around me. As soon as a machine became available he tried to beat me to it - I put my hand on his arm and told him in my pidgin Chinese that I was there first before pushing back in front of him. China is worse but Taiwan often isn't much better.

We went to China first exactly for the culture shock of being somewhere entirely different. Taiwan by comparison is a tamer, westernized, watered down version (in my opinion).

>> My Chinese isn't good enough to offer any insight on your last question but I have heard that there is a big difference in accents. I just can't tell the difference. Wink

Hope this helps a little.
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JZer



Joined: 16 Jan 2005
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Location: Pittsburgh

PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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>> Will I have an undesirable accent by learning in Taiwan? I see myself working in Europe once I'm bilingual. A Taipei local told me the Taiwan accent is close to the American one when compared to the English one; the syllables are rolled over - does anyone agree/disagree?
[tangent=] Incidentally, this particular gentleman was sat next to me on the plane, saw me reading a guide book and proceeded to write out an itinerary for my trip, recommend places to eat/drink at during my stay and then drive me to my hotel in town. Such a beautiful and hospitable welcome-to-our-country gesture which I'm told is not uncommon. [/tangent]


The desirability of a Taiwanese accent versus a Mainland Chinese accent depends on the listeners opinion. Even some teachers at Taiwan Normal University that were born in China complain how awful a Taiwanese accent is. One thing to note is that you could study in China and also end up with an undesirable accent. There are many regional dialects that affect people's accent in standard Beijing Mandarin. For example if you lived in Chengdu you would also have a very local accent if you spent a lot of time with local friends or managed to find a local girlfriend that didn't speak English with you.
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