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From Tennessee to Oaxaca-need advice...
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rayzero



Joined: 18 Feb 2011
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Location: Tennessee
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:47 pm    Post subject: From Tennessee to Oaxaca-need advice... Reply with quote
I am moving to Oaxaca and welcome any advice, replies, comments...

I reside in Tennessee and have a BA degree in Political Science with a minor in Paralegal Studies. I also have an AA degree in General Studies and speak, read and write Spanish.

For the last few years I have worked as an Immigration Paralegal. Through this knowledge and experience, I was able to assist my husband (who is from Oaxaca, MX) in obtaining his Permanent Residency.
We have decided to move to Oaxaca, Mx for a couple of years. I spent 3 months there while we waited on his approval and fell in love- we receive a monthly income that will continue while I am in MX and it is enough to cover all living expenses while we are there. So the job would be for food, entertainment, extras, etc...

I was thinking of taking an online class to receive a certificate for TESOL, but after reading several posts, the online classes do not appear to be worth the money and time spent earning them. Now I am worried that it would be a waste of money that I cannot afford to waste, especially with the cost of us moving...

Additionally, Is it worth the wait for me to obtain permission to work through my marriage to a Mexican before we move? Or, would I be able to find work without it?

A few more Questions:
1) Do you have to have a TESOL or equivalent to get a job in Mexico, or would my BA/AA and Spanish get me in the door?

2) If so, are there any online teaching classes that are worth the time and money spent- meaning, they will be accepted in MX and someone, anyone, here has had success with them?

4) My brother is a musician and is considering taking a breather from the music world to travel around with us. He has no degree but is very knowledgeable of music and his songs are played throughout MX (I heard them all the time when I was there). Would he be able to teach music without a degree?

5) Is there anyone here from the US living and teaching in MX that would mind exchanging emails with me?

All replies and suggestions will be greatly appreciated from us all�
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notamiss



Joined: 20 Jun 2007
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Location: El 5o pino del la CDMX
PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:12 am    Post subject: Re: From Tennessee to Oaxaca-need advice... Reply with quote
rayzero wrote:

Additionally, Is it worth the wait for me to obtain permission to work through my marriage to a Mexican before we move? Or, would I be able to find work without it?


You can get permission to work if you get a job offer while in Mexico. While it could theoretically be done before you move, it is virtually impossible for practical purposes. The usual order of things is 1) move to Mexico, 2) find a job, 3) obtain permission to work. As long as you are a foreign resident in Mexico, and not a nationalized Mexican, being married to a Mexican will not facilitate your getting �permission to work� status. It is getting the job offer that is the key to obtaining permission to work.
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Guy Courchesne



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Location: Mexico City
PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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being married to a Mexican will not facilitate your getting �permission to work� status. It is getting the job offer that is the key to obtaining permission to work.


Actually, it does help facilitate it, with the independent FM3 in particular. Not sure if the Oaxaca office is as easy on ind. FM3s as DF, but if going that route you write a letter in Spanish explaining your activities and reasons for being in Mexico. Being married to a Mexican goes a long way in seeking permission to stay and work.

That is all trumped if your get an employer-sponsored visa however.
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Samantha



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
GC wrote:
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Being married to a Mexican goes a long way in seeking permission to stay and work.


I have to agree with notamiss 100%, because this had never been my experience, either. As a rule, a foreigner must stand on their own two feet for permission to stay and work, so one should NEVER assume that being married to a national is a short cut. Just like it's not a shortcut going the other direction. There may some "it depends" in here, but never assume it's the case.
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TeresaLopez



Joined: 18 Apr 2010
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Location: Mexico City
PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:47 am    Post subject: Re: From Tennessee to Oaxaca-need advice... Reply with quote
notamiss wrote:

You can get permission to work if you get a job offer while in Mexico. While it could theoretically be done before you move, it is virtually impossible for practical purposes. The usual order of things is 1) move to Mexico, 2) find a job, 3) obtain permission to work. As long as you are a foreign resident in Mexico, and not a nationalized Mexican, being married to a Mexican will not facilitate your getting �permission to work� status. It is getting the job offer that is the key to obtaining permission to work.

I womder if this hasn�t changed. I translated for someone last year who got an FM2 through marriage, and was told she could work, she only had to let them know, not ask for permission, I don�t know if she followed it up by working, but I did see the notation in her booklet that stated such.
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TeresaLopez



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:48 am    Post subject: Re: From Tennessee to Oaxaca-need advice... Reply with quote
notamiss wrote:

You can get permission to work if you get a job offer while in Mexico. While it could theoretically be done before you move, it is virtually impossible for practical purposes. The usual order of things is 1) move to Mexico, 2) find a job, 3) obtain permission to work. As long as you are a foreign resident in Mexico, and not a nationalized Mexican, being married to a Mexican will not facilitate your getting �permission to work� status. It is getting the job offer that is the key to obtaining permission to work.

I womder if this hasn�t changed. I translated for someone last year who got an FM2 through marriage, and was told she could work, she only had to let them know, not ask for permission, I don�t know if she followed it up by working, but I did see the notation in her booklet that stated such.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Probably a difference in migra offices then since this was how my initial visas were done here. There's a form you can complete to complement an application...can't remember the name of it, but it doesn't even have a form number to it. It's used to declare family members in Mexico including spouses and children.

One shouldn't look at a migra here and see a single application for any single status. Time and time again on this forum we've seen how offices differ and how there are numerous ways to file applications. You have to look at the whole process and the variety of ways to strengthen your application.
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TeresaLopez



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Samantha wrote:
GC wrote:
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Being married to a Mexican goes a long way in seeking permission to stay and work.


I have to agree with notamiss 100%, because this had never been my experience, either. As a rule, a foreigner must stand on their own two feet for permission to stay and work, so one should NEVER assume that being married to a national is a short cut. Just like it's not a shortcut going the other direction. There may some "it depends" in here, but never assume it's the case.


It must be different from place to place, as I have seen FM2�s based on marriage being the fastest and easiest to get. at least here in DF. And there are other shortcuts, for example, you can apply to be naturalized after just 2 years, instead of the 5 years other people have to wait. Or maybe an FM3 is different from an FM2 in terms of what you are allowed to do. All I know is they have always told people I took that were married to Mexicans that they should get an FM2, not an FM3, that it gave them more rights. Either way, I think it is far, far easier to immigrate to, and live and work in Mexico than it is to do the same thing in the US.
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