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UK changing working holiday visa to work visa....?

 
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Ewok



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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 2:41 pm    Post subject: UK changing working holiday visa to work visa....? Reply with quote

I have searched a lot about this topic....and am still confused. I am a British citizen on a working holiday visa. I want to change to work visa (my WHV runs out in August) and I have a company willing to sponsor me.

What do I do? and do I have to return to the UK or not? Does anyone know the specific procedure?

I would prefer to hear from people who have actually done this before cos it seems there are many conflicting stories.

Thank you very much for your time,

Ewok
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I realize the following link is for HK residents, but the Q&A 5 is pretty categorical:
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Q5: Is it possible to extend the period of stay of a working holiday?

A5: Working holiday status allows you to stay in Japan for up to one year. It is not possible to change your residency status or extend the period of stay. You have to leave Japan on or before the date that your period of stay expires.

http://www.hk.emb-japan.go.jp/eng/working_holiday.html

Which leaves one in little doubt about what the 'Conditions for issue of the visa/Application Prerequisites' (that I also saw on the equivalent though much sparser UK site) mean when they state that applicants 'must intend to leave Japan at the end of their stay'.

Still, it might not be all doom and gloom: you might be able to renew your initial one-year stay (for UK passport holders) by another six months. And that if you can thus extend, that could give you the time in which to get the application rolling on a full work visa (by which I mean, you could arrange for the COE to be delivered somewhere convenient to fly out to, collect it, exchange it for the work visa at the nearest consulate, and then re-enter Japan soon after (I haven't read anything that says you can't re-enter Japan and start working FT as soon as you like after WHV expiry, only like I say that a change of residency status with a WHV isn't possible)).

Anyway, I guess if somebody has actually tried it and done it, they'll hopefully chime in, but until then...


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Ewok



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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, actually UK residents cannot extend the WHV, Australians can and maybe Canadians.

I have called every information center I could find but they all say they don't know if it's possible...
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah OK. That makes sense, because the UK WHV is twice as long as most others (and more convenient I guess). I was sort of "reading between the lines" with that one LOL! But I think it's safe to say then that your WHV status can't be changed. But the best people to ask would surely be Immigration - I mean, what harm could it do? If they say No then you'll have gotten a pretty unequivocal answer...and if they say Yes, it'll be news not only to you but quite a few others I suspect!
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ewok wrote:
Hi, actually UK residents cannot extend the WHV, Australians can and maybe Canadians.

I have called every information center I could find but they all say they don't know if it's possible...
He's not looking to extend the WHV. He's looking to change it to another type of visa.

fluffyhamster wrote:
the UK WHV is twice as long as most others

What are you talking about, fluffy? The Aussie WHV is good for 18 months total, and all others are good for 12.
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The short version of this post: Did I really need to be corrected twice? Being corrected the once was surely sufficient.

The long version: OK Glenski, I should make it perfectly clear that I haven't ever applied for a WHV, so I'll admit that I'm not entirely sure of the exact details regarding each nationality's respective allowed length of stay and permitted renewals, and there is only so much time I can put into scouring websites trying to find up-to-date information and clear answers. (I do however recall reading that some nationalities get six months, which can then be renewed another six months, bringing the total to the year that UK nationals get given. And the fact that Aussies apparently are allowed 18 months didn't make it beyond the realms of possibility that the same might apply to UK nationals - as we all know, these Immigration/Visa websites can be frustratingly vague or really beg questions).

The most important point however is that despite the slight bit of misinformation I peddled with regard to that minor detail (which Ewok himself recognized as dodgy and corrected me on, which I appreciated), I have actually answered Ewok's question - it most likely won't be possible for him to change his status/WHV to a full work one, so he will unfortunately have to leave the country and re-enter with or soon thereafter obtain a completely new visa. And I really could ask the same question of you ("What are you talking about, Glenski?"), and indeed add a more damning one ("WHO exactly are you talking to there, Glenski?!") when you solemnly interject that:
Glenski wrote:
Ewok wrote:
Hi, actually UK residents cannot extend the WHV, Australians can and maybe Canadians.

I have called every information center I could find but they all say they don't know if it's possible...
He's not looking to extend the WHV. He's looking to change it to another type of visa.


Nobody was unaware that he was looking to change to another type of visa, so there's no need for the reading lessons LOL (at least, not as far as the Cafe goes...visa websites though like I say are another matter entirely. That HK one seemed to be about the most detailed I could find in relation to changing [that is, not being able to change] from WHVs. Do you know of anywhere else that states that fact as categorically, Glenski?). Sometimes your points seem a bit besides the point, and the fact that Ewok didn't have a problem with the main thrust of what I'd said is all that really matters. But hey, if you really do enjoy addressing each and every query on the forum, even after the (main) fact (has been hammered out), be my guest. Cool
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fluffy,
I didn't correct you twice. I corrected Ewok once and you once. I'm sorry you took offense to the use of the word "extend".

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I really could ask the same question of you ("What are you talking about, Glenski?"), and indeed add a more damning one ("WHO exactly are you talking to there, Glenski?!") when you solemnly interject that:
Glenski wrote:
Ewok wrote:
Hi, actually UK residents cannot extend the WHV, Australians can and maybe Canadians.

I have called every information center I could find but they all say they don't know if it's possible...
He's not looking to extend the WHV. He's looking to change it to another type of visa.
Huh? What are you so ticked about. My quoted post shows I'm answering Ewok, not you.

As for the actual time one is given when the WHV is issued, you make it sound as if there is something undefined about the whole thing and that the information itself is scattered around the Internet. Neither is the case.

Look at the one main official source for WHV, and you can see what it says:
http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/w_holiday/programme.html#1

Period of Stay:
An initial stay of up to six months is granted for Australia, New Zealand and Canada (one year for the Republic of Korea, France, Germany, U.K., Ireland and Denmark. France, U.K., Ireland, Taiwan and Hong Kong cannot be extended.) This may be extended up to another six months by the immigration authorities. Details are available from the Immigration Bureau.

The individual country specs are linked there, too, on the same site.

So, if someone wants to split hairs, then the details are right there. The only thing not listed is the third 6-month period that Aussies get. I have actually contacted the Australian immigration authorities a few years ago, and they said they don't publicly announce that for some reason.

Bottom line, unless there is some outstanding reason, from what I have seen in years of posting on forums, it's a snap to get the second 6-month extension. That's why I wrote a year in my post.

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That HK one seemed to be about the most detailed I could find in relation to changing [that is, not being able to change] from WHVs. Do you know of anywhere else that states that fact as categorically, Glenski?).
No, I don't. Since some countries have different rules and regulations, I'd suggest that Ewok contact his own office directly or contact Japanese immigration.
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fluffyhamster



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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski, I cannot for the life of me understand quite what you were correcting Ewok about, but the strangest thing about your reply was your quoting Ewok but addressing him in the third person ('He's not looking to extend the WHV. He's looking to change it to another type of visa'). Obviously Ewok knew that, I also knew that (I mean I knew he wanted to ultimately change), so really, again, who were you talking to let alone correcting? (It would just about make sense if you had been talking to me, but you claim to have been addressing Ewok. Perhaps you need a few remedial lessons on English pronouns, to help you make clear precisely who you're referring to, otherwise you'll continue to sound as if you're talking to yourself almost).

Anyway, this has been tiring and unproductive enough already, especially when we have both ultimately more or less concluded "I'd suggest that Ewok contact his own office directly or contact Japanese immigration."


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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confusion aside, I just hope Ewok comes back to inform the masses about what they find out.
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tombarnes



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi ewok - this guy (british as well) writes on his blog that he got his WHV changed to a three year specialist in humanities visa so it can be done Very Happy let us know if you manage it too!
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gwynnie86



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as my company told me when I was originally going to come over on a WHV, you just need to be outside Japan to change it... so you can pop to Korea for a weekend break and change it there...
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bobbysix



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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back in 2002, I had to go to a Japanese embassy outside of Japan to change my WHV to a work visa.
I went to Korea because it was the closest and cheapest place.
It took about 3 days IIRC.
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