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| It certainly is, but progress there is schway, schway. |
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| Not at all - the Shura Council's a joke, anyway. |
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| Well, maybe yes, maybe no. Let's see how many women get elected. |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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 Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:16 pm Post subject: One small step for Saudi women? |
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"Saudi Women To Vote Without Male Approval
"RIYADH, Saudi Arabia -- A Saudi official says for the first time, women in the conservative kingdom will not need a male guardian's approval to run or vote in municipal elections in 2015.
Shura Council member Fahad al-Anzi says that approval for women has already come from the Saudi king. The country's Shura Council is an all-male consultative body with no legislative powers.
The state-run al-Watan newspaper announced the change Wednesday. Even so, women in Saudi Arabia cannot travel, work, study abroad, marry, get divorced or gain admittance to a public hospital without permission from a male guardian.
While King Abdullah has pushed for some changes on women's rights, he has been cautious not to push too hard against ultraconservative clerics, who have in the past challenged social reforms."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/28/saudi-women-vote-male-approval_n_1172778.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009
Regards,
John |
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OzMak
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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well its only a matter of time before this domino stacks it, i'm sure the King is doing whatever he can to stave off any attempts of a revolution.
However with majority of the population eating well and driving rather nice cars, that doesn't seem likely any time soon... khaleeji's mate hhhhh |
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It's Scary!
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From what I understand, Saudi women, for the first time, are allowed to vote...but only if they drive themselves to the polling places. 
It's absurd! |
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scjw
Joined: 31 May 2011
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BretHarte
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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| I'm curious what will happen if Crown Prince Nayef takes over. My expectations are this will be on his list of things to roll back. |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Dear BretHarte,
You're probably right - the Price of Darkness is not exactly a champion of progressive liberalism  .
Hmm, too bad he's not running on the Republican ticker in the Iowa primaries; he'd probably pick up a hefty share of the vote.
Regards,
John |
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BretHarte
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Ha, he's probably not conservative enough to run for the right this time. How much farther can they push it? Don't answer that. |
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It's Scary!
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| My expectations are this will be on his list of things to roll back. |
Yup! Right after making folks eyes roll back in response to the ever so gentle questioning that his people give, ahem, "suspects".
It's a dirty job, buy Nayef's minions HAFTA do it! |
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babur
Joined: 10 Aug 2010
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Location: Dammam, Saudi Arabia
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battleshipb_b
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| Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| The women are forging ahead. They are smart, educated and determined. The king backs their progress. Wait and see. They will one day be a force to be reckoned with. |
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nomad soul
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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Location: The real world
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| Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| battleshipb_b wrote: |
| The women are forging ahead. They are smart, educated and determined. The king backs their progress. Wait and see. They will one day be a force to be reckoned with. |
No kiddin'! I see such determination in my students. By the way, here's an update on the movement to allow women to drive:
Saudi woman files suit over right to drive
By Mohammed Jamjoom, CNN | Feb. 5, 2012
(Source: http://edition.cnn.com/2012/02/05/world/meast/saudi-arabia-women-drivers/index.html?hpt=hp_t3)
(CNN) -- A leader of a high-profile campaign pushing for women to drive in Saudi Arabia says she's suing traffic police in order to get a driver's license. Manal al Sharif told CNN Sunday that she filed an objection with the General Directorate of Traffic in Riyadh, the country's capital, when officials rejected her license application. After waiting 90 days and receiving no response, she filed her suit against them in November. "It's just creating positive pressure on the officials to get back to us -- and it will encourage more women to apply for licenses and file lawsuits," she said.
There are no specific traffic laws that make it illegal for women to drive in Saudi Arabia. However, religious edicts are often interpreted as a prohibition of female drivers. Such edicts also prevent women from opening bank accounts, obtaining passports or even going to school without the presence of a male guardian.
Al Sharif said her case had been transferred to Saudi Arabia's Interior Ministry. Officials there could not be reached for comment. Al Sharif said she first applied for a license after being stopped by the authorities for driving a car last May. She was detained, spent nine days in jail and quickly became an icon of the "Women2Drive" campaign, an initiative demanding the right for women to drive and travel freely in Saudi Arabia.
A Facebook page organizing a campaign for women to drive last June included a banner that read, "We are all Manal Sharif," and a quote from King Abdullah stating that "the day will come when women will be able to drive." The single mother and information technology specialist's name first became a rallying cry for Saudi women last year after she uploaded a YouTube video of herself driving. Through the lawsuit, al Sharif said she is continuing her fight.
"There is no law forbidding women from driving," she said.
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posh
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The female receptionists and nurses at my dentist are very pleasant - giggly and chatty in very good English. Good for them!
Still haven't got the faintest idea what they look like, though. |
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CamTam
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| Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:06 am Post subject: |
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| Are you sure the receptionists and nurses you talked to were Saudi? Most nurses in Saudi Arabia are foreign. The chances are good the receptionists are non-Saudi as well. |
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posh
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| CamTam wrote: |
| Are you sure the receptionists and nurses you talked to were Saudi? Most nurses in Saudi Arabia are foreign. The chances are good the receptionists are non-Saudi as well. |
They were Saudi. |
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nomad soul
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Saudi women to compete in UK Olympics
The Saudi Gazette | March 20, 2012
(Source: http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentID=20120320120022)
RIYADH/BERLIN � The General Presidency of Youth Welfare has revealed that Saudi women will participate in the London Olympics and will wear traditional outfits that are in conformity with Shariah.
Saudi Arabia, Brunei and Qatar have never previously included females in their teams and the International Olympic Committee (IOC) is eager to see that situation change in London in July.
The IOC said Monday that Saudi Arabian Olympics Committee officials presented a list of potential candidates for the London Games during a meeting at its headquarters in Lausanne last week. �After the assessment of the level of each athlete by the IOC and the international federations concerned, a formal proposal will be submitted to the next meeting of the IOC executive board in Quebec City in May,� it said in a statement. �The IOC is confident Saudi Arabia is working to include women athletes and officials at the Olympic Games in London in accordance with the rules of the international federations.�
Qatar, bidding to host the 2020 Games, said last month it would send female athletes to the Olympics for the first time. The IOC has offered Qatar wildcard invitations for two female athletes to compete in London, swimmer Nada Arkaji and sprinter Noor Al-Malki.
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