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		| JessC162 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 10:08 pm    Post subject: Can you grade/mark papers in the school after hours? |   |  
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				| I am thinking of being a ESL teacher and I was wondering if you have the option to stay after the kids go home to sit at your desk and get things done you need for tomorrow. 
 Or do you have to take it home?
 
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		| artemisia 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 10:57 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Your plans are unclear here so just to be clear: ESL (English for Second Languages or ESOL: English for Speakers of Other Languages) usually means teaching English in an English speaking country. Is that what you mean? 
 I'm not sure what kind of teaching situation you're imagining. It's not that likely you'd be based in one school all day as, say, regular primary school teachers in your home country are. I think that would only be possible if you're based in a proper school set up such as you might find in Korea and China. Teaching in other countries is usually referrred to as (English for Foreign Languages). Are you planning on teaching abroad?
 
 Generally, in most language teaching situations, you can expect to find a teacher's room or staffroom where you can prepare work and if you have an individual classroom assigned (and are not just moving around from place to place) then you could work there assuming the classroom is not locked after school. A lot of teachers, EFL/ ESL or otherwise, bring work home.
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		| spiral78 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 11:07 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| A huge amount of EFL/ESL teaching is not to kids.  We teach in universities, in businesses, and in private language schools to adults. 
 EFL (English as a Foreign language - in a country where English is not the major spoken language)
 ESL (English as a Second language - in an Anglophone country for immigrants and foreign students, who are usually near or at university age)
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		| Glenski 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 11:54 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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Depends on the situation. ALTs in Japan are paid to stay in the school all day. 
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	  | I'm not sure what kind of teaching situation you're imagining. It's not that likely you'd be based in one school all day as, say, regular primary school teachers in your home country are. |  |  | 
	
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		| JessC162 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 2:42 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I meant EFL so if you go to work in china can you stay after class? 
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		| tttompatz 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 3:09 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | JessC162 wrote: |  
	  | I meant EFL so if you go to work in china can you stay after class? |  
 40 hour work week, 18 classes per week. There is lots of desk time (22+ hours per week at your desk) to get your marking and prep done if you are in a school.
 
 If you are in a language academy (after school and weekends situation) then each one is different and in most cases there is no marking to do. You will be hired as a conversation teacher and not a language arts teacher.
 
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		| naturegirl321 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 4:16 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Many employers would be HAPPY to have you there afterhours and wokring.  SOME may not and close the school down, but you could always take your work home and do it there. |  | 
	
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		| JessC162 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 8:09 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The only thing that worries me about taking my work home is losing it or wrecking their work. 
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		| naturegirl321 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 9:50 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Just stick it in a folder and put it in a backpack.  You'll be fine. |  | 
	
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		| Glenski 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 10:18 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| If you're inquiring only about China, I'd suggest adding this thread to the China forum for more responses from the crowd that's there now. |  | 
	
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		| JessC162 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 2:50 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| No I was just using china as an example for places over seas. |  | 
	
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		| rtm 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 4:01 am    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | JessC162 wrote: |  
	  | No I was just using china as an example for places over seas. |  
 I think it's hard to talk about "overseas" in general.  Also, there are many, many, many different teaching contexts - there are huge differences between teaching at kindergarten vs. primary school vs. secondary school vs. university, between public and private schools, between teaching children and adults, between teaching in a school and teaching at a language learning center, not to mention the obviously huge differences between countries.
 
 In your OP, you mentioned "after the kids go home" - so, you are thinking about teaching children, then?  What age group? In what country?  What kind of school?  Without that info, it's hard to say.  You're also assuming that they will have homework (in some situations, there isn't any), and that you'll even have a desk to sit at (in some situations, you might not).
 
 In my personal experience, when I taught at a high school in Japan, I could stay at my desk in the evening and mark homework if I wanted to.  When I taught adults at a language school in Japan, there was no homework to grade, and I taught until 10pm most nights anyway, so couldn't have stayed at work after that because they locked the building.  When I taught as an adjunct instructor at universities in Japan, I had to take homework home to grade - as a part-time employee, I didn't have a desk to use.
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		| naturegirl321 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 4:59 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| IN nearly a decade of teaching, I've never lost a paper, but I've saved lots of time by grading on the bus, subway, and waiting for them to arrive. 
 AS the above posters says, there are heaps and heaps of teaching settings.  Some poeple have daily grading, others don't have any at all.
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		| JessC162 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 7:43 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Well when I said kids I just meant students or people or whatever lol I didn't really think about my post because it was my first and I didn't think people would really reply like this helpful. |  | 
	
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