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booklady26



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 2:16 am    Post subject: Behavior of students (Not answered) Reply with quote

What can a teacher expect when teaching students in Taiwan? Are there significant behavior issues or are the students mostly hard working and compliant? Asian students in the U.S. tend to be among the most dedicated and talented kids in a classroom; is that true in Taiwan itself?

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dangerousapple



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I encourage your daughter to get online and ask some questions herself. I don't think I'm the only one who finds it a little weird that you are doing this on her behalf.

If your daughter is relying on you to tell her if this is a good place to work, then I strongly suggest that she doesn't come over. Taiwan can be a dream or it can be a nightmare, but it is especially hard on people who have trouble doing things on their own.

Not trying to be mean here, but your posts make it look like she needs someone to hold her hand.
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booklady26



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah. She's super competent and independent. I'm not holding her hand at all. Sorry if you think a mom and daughter who communicate well and work together to get things done during a busy time in her life is "weird". Not that it matters, but I'm totally supportive of her decision to do this and taught overseas myself for 4 years but under different circumstances. We both like getting information from a variety of sources, and she truly doesn't have the time to do it all herself.

Anyway, she's a great teacher and doesn't have any problem maintaining good discipline. We were just curious.
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Dr_Zoidberg



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to agree with dangerousapple. You'll notice not many are lining up to answer your enquiries.

Taiwan is good to some, but sh*ts all over others. And Western women seem to have a more difficult time of it here than Western men, generally speaking.

Your daughter should really be researching Taiwan for herself.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

booklady26 wrote:
Nah. She's super competent and independent. I'm not holding her hand at all. Sorry if you think a mom and daughter who communicate well and work together to get things done during a busy time in her life is "weird". Not that it matters, but I'm totally supportive of her decision to do this and taught overseas myself for 4 years but under different circumstances. We both like getting information from a variety of sources, and she truly doesn't have the time to do it all herself.

Anyway, she's a great teacher and doesn't have any problem maintaining good discipline. We were just curious.


But she hasn't taught in Taiwan yet.
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booklady26



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's too bad no one wants to actually answer my questions since that could be useful for future visitors to this site. Apparently it is more important to everyone that I am humbled instead of informed, so I would suggest that the moderator simply remove this thread.

If anyone wants to give me any useful information about teaching in Taiwan, please PM me.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr_Zoidberg wrote:
I have to agree with dangerousapple. You'll notice not many are lining up to answer your enquiries.

Taiwan is good to some, but sh*ts all over others. And Western women seem to have a more difficult time of it here than Western men, generally speaking.

Your daughter should really be researching Taiwan for herself.


I think she would like have a better time teaching in Brazil.
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Shimokitazawa



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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

booklady26 wrote:
It's too bad no one wants to actually answer my questions since that could be useful for future visitors to this site. Apparently it is more important to everyone that I am humbled instead of informed, so I would suggest that the moderator simply remove this thread.

If anyone wants to give me any useful information about teaching in Taiwan, please PM me.


If your daughter is not capable of getting online and making inquiries herself about a potential job and life in Taiwan, she shouldn't come. It's that simple. People will not coddle her or do things for her when she's here. She's going to have to manage on her own and take care of herself.

I'm dumbfounded that you are actually here posting on behalf of your daughter. Amazing.
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yamahuh



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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

booklady26 wrote:
It's too bad no one wants to actually answer my questions since that could be useful for future visitors to this site. Apparently it is more important to everyone that I am humbled instead of informed, so I would suggest that the moderator simply remove this thread.

If anyone wants to give me any useful information about teaching in Taiwan, please PM me.


I don't think it's a case of people wanting to humble you. It's admirable that you and your daughter are so close but, as others have stated, nobody is going to be here to hold your daughter's hand when she arrives. Experience outside Taiwan counts for very little once you are here and, if she is really interested in making the transition, she should probably try to find time to post her own questions to research such a huge decision.

There's a lot of very informed people on this forum, who would be happy to help out. Although I've no idea what reasons were used to suggest that your daughter would be better off teaching in Brazil.
Rolling Eyes


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Dr_Zoidberg



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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

booklady26, as yamahuh noted, we are not trying to humble you. Some of us have a considerable number of years under our belts here in Taiwan, so when we say your daughter should be doing this herself, maybe your daughter should be...y'know....doing this herself.

I've seen many an expat chewed up and spat out by Taiwan over the years, so moving here - even for just one year - is not a decision to be made lightly. If she were to end up in Taipei that would not be much of a problem, but she may end up elsewhere. It's important for her to know exactly where she could end up and all that goes with it.

I offer this one piece of advice for you to pass on: Come to Taiwan with no expectations, and learn to roll with the punches. And remember, everyone's experience is different.
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JZer



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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr_Zoidberg wrote:
booklady26, as yamahuh noted, we are not trying to humble you. Some of us have a considerable number of years under our belts here in Taiwan, so when we say your daughter should be doing this herself, maybe your daughter should be...y'know....doing this herself.

I've seen many an expat chewed up and spat out by Taiwan over the years, so moving here - even for just one year - is not a decision to be made lightly. If she were to end up in Taipei that would not be much of a problem, but she may end up elsewhere. It's important for her to know exactly where she could end up and all that goes with it.

I offer this one piece of advice for you to pass on: Come to Taiwan with no expectations, and learn to roll with the punches.


This is exactly why I recommend Brazil as long as you don't need to earn much. There is a cultural exchange program that allows one to work in Brazil for a year and they give you an apartment and a small living stipend.
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yamahuh



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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's more than one country that will pay your apartment costs for you. Some even pay return flights and utilities on top of that. Plus, instead of earning a 'small living stipend' (as opposed to a small dead one I assume) why not make a reasonable wage for a year?
What is so special about Brazil?
Rolling Eyes
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Shimokitazawa



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mom,

Why don't you get your daughter to post her questions? I guarantee you that she would get a lot of useful feedback from people here. A lot of these posters have significant experience teaching in Taiwan - and other countries in the region, like Korea, Japan, Thailand, and China. I admit that while many teachers here do not always share the same opinions, they have been here long enough to provide some useful and pertinent information to her.

I think what happened in your posts is that you've ruffled some feathers by coming on here, on behalf of your daughter, to obtain information on working in Taiwan when she could have - should have - done it herself. Most have all taken their knocks and had their ups and downs here with this "career" and chosen lifestyle. As a result, they would have more respect for her (and you) if she did her own due diligence. It would be well worth her time and effort if she plans on living and teaching in Taiwan.
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Trebek



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:41 am    Post subject: sheesh Reply with quote

I'm agreeing with the rest Momma.



Let your kid live her life and take her falls if she needs to. If she is a Certified teacher in Texas, why doesn't she work there for a couple years in order to get her routine straight?
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