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starteacher
Joined: 25 Feb 2009 Posts: 237
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:30 pm Post subject: Thanks Japan |
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Hi It's been some time since I last posted, but I'm in my fourth year at my second eikaiwa, and it's great.
I've not checked in lately because it always seems that often the posts are negative, and cannot be bothered to get drawn into the same bore each time when I logged in previously
I find that the job I do is not much different from what most people have said in general (in terms of pay, hours, accomodation etc) but I have found that simply some people are better off and some are worse off than me. But we have a great time together. In fact one of the the teachers here has been working for about 9 years at another eikaiwa and the salary has decreased slightly, but because of her position as almost like a permanent staff, possibly due to being still "cheap" she gets time off easily, respect from everyone inc students, freedom to do her own lessons, helps newbies, and to top it all got married and is having a wonderful time. Much more experienced than the rest of the group of friends we have here, we ask how she can cope...simple...just enjoy life and don't be selfish.
Of course if you think of coming over here for only 1-2 years, you're gonna be selfish for your sight is short; whilst the average number of years of teachers in our area is about 5, I am considered a newbie !! It's not how many facts you know about ELT in Japan, it's how you live life in general that is gonna make your stay worthwhile. You can find lots to complain about but most often it just makes you feel worse. One teacher had a great job with pay and holidays, but complained and sulked that after one year she was out, she left from her own accord and not from the school.
The one thing we notice is that the economy is suffering, and this is everywhere in the world. You can get a job here and there in different parts of the world, but each time you hop around it costs, not just financially but also with friendship. There is such a good network here that friends help each other out and that what makes up life. Facebook has helped more as we have regular events, we know that better money can be elsewhere, but the fun we have after a gruelling weeks work makes up plenty of that. Some people who get paid lots seem to be the most miserable.
And that is why I am writing this post...and why it has taken such a long time (9 months since my last one), for whilst there has been some whinging here, we are out busying going to bars, gigs, each others apartments, nature walks, overseas trips, skiing, karaoke, bbqs, etc and we budget to each other needs. The odd thing is because we like it here, there are not many openings because its like a family and those who left have even come back on vacation and wish to be back in their old jobs even if it takes a pay cut.
I hope this positive post helps people searching for job in Japan or for long-timers, this forum has a lot of facts and information, but the reality of ELT life is to try it, have fun, make friends, share the tears and laughter. If you gonna make money your prime than that notion is gonna stay with you and you'll never really be happy for you are always looking for more and will always be jealous of others who have more or you will always show off you have more. Whilst actual wealth is from the friends (both foreigners and local Japanese) who will make your few years in Japan a really good memory.
And I'm not really to leave yet, even though I miss my family and friends back home, but quite a few of them have visited here and that's more to be thankful for (besides there aren't many jobs going on back home right now anyway !).
So do not fear, don't always think employers in Japan are trying to screw you, the only one doing that is yourself.
Thanks.
Ps: I realise I may have had a whinge or two in the past but have realised now it was just stupidilty.  |
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starteacher
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The Great Wall of Whiner

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 4946 Location: Blabbing
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:04 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the read.
Welcome back. Sorry to say that not everything is positive in the teaching overseas profession and when something needs to be discussed, we shouldn't shy away from that discussion.
That said, it is good to see more positive, less negative, you are right. |
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Speed

Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Posts: 152 Location: Shikoku Land
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| Good for you, Starteacher. It's also good to see something positive being written on here. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:48 am Post subject: Re: Thanks Japan |
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| starteacher wrote: |
| I've not checked in lately because it always seems that often the posts are negative, |
Posts on most forums are intended to ask questions or to complain. Those that ask questions are either just for information that they lack, or they are asking to solve a problem. So, it's pretty much for granted that the majority of posts will have a negative tint to them.
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| Of course if you think of coming over here for only 1-2 years, you're gonna be selfish for your sight is short; |
People's outlook change, too, so they may not be so selfish. I came with the idea of staying 1-2 years, but even in that first period of time I don't consider myself "selfish". I tried to learn as much as I could, I met some nice and bad people, I made mistakes and learned from them, etc. I wasn't a stereotype backpacker with hedonistic ways. Maybe I was an exception, and my previous experience in Japan, plus my age, may have contributed to that difference.
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| whilst the average number of years of teachers in our area is about 5, I am considered a newbie !! It's not how many facts you know about ELT in Japan, it's how you live life in general that is gonna make your stay worthwhile. |
I would go a little further and say that it's more how open you are to your surroundings, how little you choose to compare with your own culture (thinking it's better), and how much you choose to adapt/compromise because of the differences.
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we know that better money can be elsewhere, but the fun we have after a gruelling weeks work makes up plenty of that. Some people who get paid lots seem to be the most miserable.
And that is why I am writing this post. |
And some people who get paid very little complain, too, perhaps more than those who get paid a lot. In general, they should, IMO.
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| I hope this positive post helps people searching for job in Japan or for long-timers, this forum has a lot of facts and information, but the reality of ELT life is to try it, have fun, make friends, share the tears and laughter. If you gonna make money your prime than that notion is gonna stay with you and you'll never really be happy for you are always looking for more and will always be jealous of others who have more or you will always show off you have more. Whilst actual wealth is from the friends (both foreigners and local Japanese) who will make your few years in Japan a really good memory. |
I would say that this is more of a positive philosophy of life in general, not just for TEFLers.
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| So do not fear, don't always think employers in Japan are trying to screw you, the only one doing that is yourself. |
Interesting how you segue from greedy people complaining, to people who think employers are trying to screw them. |
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think_balance
Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 67 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: Thanks Japan |
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| Glenski wrote: |
| I came with the idea of staying 1-2 years, but even in that first period of time I don't consider myself "selfish". I tried to learn as much as I could, I met some nice and bad people, I made mistakes and learned from them, etc. I wasn't a stereotype backpacker with hedonistic ways. Maybe I was an exception, and my previous experience in Japan, plus my age, may have contributed to that difference. |
Glenski, are you will to share your story here? I've been curious what prompted you to change careers at the age you did, what your first job was and how long / how you went about getting the job you have now.
I believe you and I have a lot of commonalities in that I'll be making the transition in a few years at about the same age you did, etc. Your insight would be invaluable. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| PM sent, think_balance. |
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think_balance
Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 67 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Glenski wrote: |
| PM sent, think_balance. |
Thank you. |
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