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[rxk22]

At my old job one of the JTs had a pretty heated debate with one of the FTs. The JT is in her 50's and a lot of what she knows about English and American culture is a bit outdated.
Anyhow she asked me a while ago if, well told me really that people still use Ms, as in Mizz also NOT miss. I told here that I have only met one person that ever used it. That was in Elem school(late 80's) and I haven't met another person since.
Not that I have anything against it, I just think it's a throw back to 60/70's feminism.


Your thought please.

BTW I am from the DC area.

[seklarwia]

A JTE asked me about it because she noticed that my ID cards had me as Miss but in the New Horizon textbooks, the ALT is called Ms Green whilst Shin's host mother is called Mrs Baker.

I'm from the UK but I told her pretty much the same: that using Ms is pretty outdated and only older woman tend to still us it.

My mother used to use it back in the day to hide the fact that she wasn't married despite having 3 kids, but even she is back to Miss. I don't know anyone my age back in the UK who uses Ms as their title. Although I do have it on one bank card. I actually went in to complain that I was a Miss and not a non-descript Ms... turns out it is because my name is too long for me to have Miss embossed in full

[-E-]

Around here (central US), "Miss" is the outdated term. I've NEVER seen anyone use it in a professional setting, and I've handled a lot of correspondence. Usually, you have the choice of "Ms." or "Mrs.", or you just drop those altogether and use academic letters.

"Miss" just looks flat-out weird to me. It's reserved for kids and very young women here, not adults.

[benshi]

What -E- said. In American usage, at least, "Mr." "Mrs." or "Ms." are still the preferred salutations in business letters.

[rxk22]

[mc]

[Calico]

[rxk22]

[Sydney Teacher]

Here in Australia, Miss in generally only used when addressing young girls up to 18 or so, then professionally it is only seen when the title-holder wants, for whatever reason, the world to know her marital status. Ms. was introduced so that women could have a title equivalent to Mr by which men can be addressed without marital status being an issue, to prevent sexual discrimination.
In all English speaking countries the correct pronunciation of Ms. is actually "miz" but some people will hear and remember it as "miss" out of ignorance. It's usually only seen in formal or business letters, so you only need to be concerned about it if you write a lot of those.
In many countries it is still legal for job appilcants to be asked what their marital staus is and discriminated against according to their answer.
Thankfully, its not so in Australia.
Long live the Ms.!

[hollysuel]

[baki]

[TokyoLiz]

I'm from the west coast of Canada where I'm a Ms., pronounced miss or miz. All of my correspondence and banking comes addressed to Ms. Tokyo from either Canada or Japan.

I'm not Ms. Liz at school. The students always address me as Ms. Tokyo or simply sensei.

I find it sweet and cute when old Japanese people call me miss, but I figure it's an endearment, or simply a way to get my attention when they don't know my name.

[seklarwia]

[Angelfish]

I go by Ms.

I am married, but I didn't take my husband's name.

I am no longer 'Miss C', but nor am I 'Mrs C' (that would be my mum). Also, I am not 'Mrs D' (husband's name), so I go by 'Ms C'.

Further to that, I don't agree with the public labeling of a woman's marital status due to her name (miss or mrs) whereas all men can keep that information private with the undefined 'Mr' label.

[rxk22]