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Visa renewal - lose extra categories?

 
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Piri-Piri



Joined: 23 Mar 2010
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Location: Osaka

PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:23 pm    Post subject: Visa renewal - lose extra categories? Reply with quote

Hello,

A visa question (apologies if it's been asked before, I did search to no avail)...

If you have an instructor's visa, and you change job from Alt to Eikaiwa and apply for the additional category for humanities specialist, then renew your visa while at the Eikaiwa, will your new (renewed) visa still be both "instructor" and "humanities", or will you lose the "instructor" part?

Thanks in advance, mateys!
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are very confused.

You cannot hold both categories on your visa. It is either Instructor visa or the Humanities type. If you change jobs that are of a different category (as you wrote, from an ALT job in a high school to an eikaiwa job), then you must change the visa type.
http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/english/tetuduki/zairyuu/henkou.html

You can get special permission to work outside of either category, but that's different than changing the whole visa.
http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/english/tetuduki/zairyuu/shikakugai.html
That means your main job is still what you got the visa for, but you can ask to be allowed to do other work for a fraction of your income.

So, if you get the special permission, then renew the visa, you are renewing the main category. I suspect you would also retain the special permission to do the other work (any other work, not just teaching). Confirm with immigration how/whether to do that.
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Inflames



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:

So, if you get the special permission, then renew the visa, you are renewing the main category. I suspect you would also retain the special permission to do the other work (any other work, not just teaching). Confirm with immigration how/whether to do that.


As I have special permission from immigration, I can clarify. It has its own expiration date (not after your visa but it can be before - the first one I had was like that). It requires a separate application although immigration accepts change of status/renewal applications and special permission applications at the same time (there's no renewal for a special permission application - it's the same form). Renewing your work visa does not have any change on the special permission.
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Piri-Piri



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aha! Thank you both Glenski and Inflames... I was indeed very confused.

I wonder if that's where some of the occasional Eikaiwa regulations about "you must not have a second job/moonlight" come from... concern that employees wouldn't appreciate the additional visa requirements if the job was of a different type and could then jeopardise their visa entirely. That would be a generous interpretation, anyway.

Thanks again, chaps! Smile
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Piri-Piri wrote:
I wonder if that's where some of the occasional Eikaiwa regulations about "you must not have a second job/moonlight" come from... concern that employees wouldn't appreciate the additional visa requirements if the job was of a different type and could then jeopardise their visa entirely. That would be a generous interpretation, anyway.
I doubt it. More than likely is the notion that employers just don't want their teachers getting private students from their classes.
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