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Timberdan
Joined: 21 Jul 2010 Posts: 21
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:11 am Post subject: Any advice for teaching in malaysia |
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Hello, I've been teaching in Taiwan for a few years and want a change. I'm having difficulty deciding where to go. I feel my main three choices are Japan, S. Korea and Malaysia. However, i don't know much about Malaysia and wanted some good advice, searching the web most articles and comments i found were many years old.
I don't want to work in the capital, but i'm not sure how much work is outside it. Also, i'm 25 and i get the impression that it's not a country for a young person in which case i'm probably more suited for S. Korea.
Any information and advice would be appriciated.
Thanks. |
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kerrilee
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 59 Location: Dalian, China
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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As far as I know you have to be 27 years old to work legally in Malaysia (it was a requirement for the job I have been offered there and for other jobs I have seen advertised.) So it may be wise to look elsewhere until you reach 27....... |
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KayuJati
Joined: 21 Feb 2010 Posts: 313
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:03 am Post subject: |
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To my knowledge there is no lower age requirement for a work permit, other than being an adult ( >18 ). Thus, as a 25-year-old, you could qualify for one.
http://pwcias.com/webmedia/doc/633728795653275316_ias_immigration_my.pdf
When I worked in KL, there was another expat on staff who was 23 or 24 years old and she got a regular expat work permit without problems.
To answer your question, it would help to know your academic and work background. I have worked outside KL for 11 years now and know of other people doing so also. And, yeah, it IS nice. |
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Timberdan
Joined: 21 Jul 2010 Posts: 21
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Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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Well I have a degree and a telf qualification. I have almost three years experience in cram schools in Taiwan.
Like i said, i'm having difficulty making a choice and any up to date info on Malaysia would be quite useful. What teaching jobs are like? What's the lifestyle like? Will I be able to save money? Are the locals difficult? Are they currupt? Should i be picking somewhere like Japan and S. Korea at my age? Is there any way to teach in a beautiful costal town that i keep seeing in the picures? |
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KayuJati
Joined: 21 Feb 2010 Posts: 313
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:56 am Post subject: |
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Timberdan wrote: |
Well I have a degree and a telf qualification. I have almost three years experience in cram schools in Taiwan.
Like i said, i'm having difficulty making a choice and any up to date info on Malaysia would be quite useful. What teaching jobs are like? What's the lifestyle like? Will I be able to save money? Are the locals difficult? Are they currupt? Should i be picking somewhere like Japan and S. Korea at my age? Is there any way to teach in a beautiful costal town that i keep seeing in the picures? |
I know of three women who obtained jobs in two of those beautiful coastal towns with just bachelor degrees and some type of certification. We really need to distinguish between the international schools (primary and secondary) and colleges/universities (tertiary). For the latter, one really needs at least a Masters degree since you will be competing with locals who also hold BA degrees, and more earning the MA degree every year. Still, two of those women had just bachelor degrees and were able to get jobs in local colleges.
They are not as concerned with having native speakers in the colleges and universities as in other countries. And there are Malaysians who could rightly claim English as their first language.
You should come down this summer (June/July) or late fall (November/December) and visit some schools. Most jobs are not advertised. New semesters typically begin in August and January. |
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Timberdan
Joined: 21 Jul 2010 Posts: 21
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you,
that was something I noticed, there wasn't a lot of advertising on the web. Are cram schools not so popular in Malaysia then. So do you think i should travel the country making inquiries. My contract here doesn't end till September so I won't be able to travel in June or July.
I know i'm asking a lot of questions, but I know no one who has taught there. Is there a website or something you could recommend, maybe i'm just looking in the wrong places. |
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KayuJati
Joined: 21 Feb 2010 Posts: 313
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:03 am Post subject: |
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Timberdan wrote: |
Thank you,
that was something I noticed, there wasn't a lot of advertising on the web. Are cram schools not so popular in Malaysia then. So do you think i should travel the country making inquiries. My contract here doesn't end till September so I won't be able to travel in June or July.
I know i'm asking a lot of questions, but I know no one who has taught there. Is there a website or something you could recommend, maybe i'm just looking in the wrong places. |
PM on the way. |
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Nemodot
Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 53
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Hi at 25 you are too young to get a legal wp teaching as you have to be 28 to get one for teaching. Ict workers can get when younger especially in cyberjaya - 22 min if I remember correctly. That is because Itc skills are acquired quicker.
Of course some people work ilegally and some are on spouse visas.
Malaysia isn't like Taiwan, Korea or Thailand where teaching jobs are easy to get. Competition is stiff and no real Market for tefl however recently some companies are hiring staff and pay decent enough salaries that work with the moe. malaysians speak good English and lots of local tefl teachers. |
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KayuJati
Joined: 21 Feb 2010 Posts: 313
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Nemodot wrote: |
Hi at 25 you are too young to get a legal wp teaching as you have to be 28 to get one for teaching. Ict workers can get when younger especially in cyberjaya - 22 min if I remember correctly. That is because Itc skills are acquired quicker. |
Well, I just found three sites that claims that the minimum age is 27.
In addition to IT workers, they must also waive this age requirement for maids (we've known several still in their late teens), and plantation workers, and petrol station workers, and so on.
Is there really a minimum age, or is it an urban legend?
Until I see it on a Malaysian government website, I still don't believe that this is being enforced too strongly. |
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Nemodot
Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 53
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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KayuJati wrote: |
Nemodot wrote: |
Hi at 25 you are too young to get a legal wp teaching as you have to be 28 to get one for teaching. Ict workers can get when younger especially in cyberjaya - 22 min if I remember correctly. That is because Itc skills are acquired quicker. |
Well, I just found three sites that claims that the minimum age is 27.
In addition to IT workers, they must also waive this age requirement for maids (we've known several still in their late teens), and plantation workers, and petrol station workers, and so on.
Is there really a minimum age, or is it an urban legend?
Until I see it on a Malaysian government website, I still don't believe that this is being enforced too strongly. |
Maids are not expatriate workers. They have a different visa!
Many rules in Malaysia are unwritten like pakistanis not being allowed to marry Malays in Malaysia, Mamaks only getting bumi status after a degree and even most of the bumi laws are unwritten!
And any rule in Malaysia can be bent with kopi duit. But I dealt with immi a lot and there are real issues if not over 27. It is prob a guideline as immi quote it if you ask them. Cyberjaya companies have easier guidelines. |
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Timberdan
Joined: 21 Jul 2010 Posts: 21
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Well thanks for the information. It's a shame i'm too young. Maybe Malaysia is an idea i should try in 3 or 4 years. I've tried the advice you PM me, and i did get a responce asking for a CV, so i guess i'll see what they say once they find out i'm 25. |
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