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Currently Teaching in Middle East: Advice About Career Move

 
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pocketplayer



Joined: 22 Feb 2010
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:03 am    Post subject: Currently Teaching in Middle East: Advice About Career Move Reply with quote

Hi All!
I am currently teaching in the Middle East, primary education, 30 hours a week.
My contact is ending and I am wanting to expand my horizons. I tend to be more
a micro personality and need help with getting up-to-date on other possibilities/options.
All insight appreciated.

Prior to teaching overseas, I taught elementary for 13 years in the US and hold a
multiple-subject clear teaching credential.

Ideally, I'd like to work with adults if possible or older students. Teaching grades
one and two(science, English, math), 30 hours a week with little curriculum
and support has been a challenge, but I made it work successfully. Just time to move on.

Can anyone offer advice on what other opportunities are available and/or any other
education/certificates I would need?

Salary consideration here was aprox $4000 mo USD
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tttompatz



Joined: 06 Mar 2010
Posts: 1951
Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:31 am    Post subject: Re: Currently Teaching in Middle East: Advice About Career M Reply with quote

pocketplayer wrote:
Hi All!
I am currently teaching in the Middle East, primary education, 30 hours a week.
My contact is ending and I am wanting to expand my horizons. I tend to be more
a micro personality and need help with getting up-to-date on other possibilities/options.
All insight appreciated.

Prior to teaching overseas, I taught elementary for 13 years in the US and hold a
multiple-subject clear teaching credential.

Ideally, I'd like to work with adults if possible or older students. Teaching grades
one and two(science, English, math), 30 hours a week with little curriculum
and support has been a challenge, but I made it work successfully. Just time to move on.

Can anyone offer advice on what other opportunities are available and/or any other
education/certificates I would need?

Salary consideration here was aprox $4000 mo USD


IF you are expecting the same or similar salary US$4k + benefits you can pretty much rule out Asia unless you have a PhD that you didn't mention.

At $4k including benefits you can look at places like Korea and Taiwan (as a teacher). You might get lucky and land a decent international school with similar salaries in Thailand.

Otherwise the money will be less (25%-60% less; depending on country and school setting) but your workload will be 1/2 as well (15-20 classes /50 minutes per week on a standard 40 hour work week).

IF you have a related MA to go with your experience you will easily qualify for university work in most countries in Asia with the caveat that they usually do require you to interview in person and don't pay airfare or housing and although the class loads are low (6-15 classes per week) the salaries for starting are also usually low (US$2-3k or even lower in China and Thailand).

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pocketplayer



Joined: 22 Feb 2010
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you...

As mentioned above, am seeking info/experience on the opportunities for one teaching English with my education/experience.
BA
Multiple-Subject Clear Credential
13 Full Time Years Elementary Teacher
2 Years Overseas Experience

For example, in my school district we have LT's (licensed teachers), Heads of Faculty, and Cluster Managers. The HoF and CM's need administrative experience, so that's pretty much out for me. There are other positions in the District office, but they don't appeal to me.

Those teaching at university need MA to qualify over here.

I wonder about moving into the business sector and what qualifications are needed. Sadly, I find most unaware of what it takes to teach children, especially over here. It is my opinion that if you can master the elementary classroom over here, you can do just about anything related to education.

I am in no way trying to open the floodgates of debate, but imagine walking into a school where Arabic teachers and admin don't really want you there (not in every case), you have 30 hours per week with Arabic teachers given 15, the students know little to no English, you have little to no curriculum, there are very few supplies, the students will wrestle/fight at will unless they are controlled ALL day long, especially after lunch, students from other classes randomly walk into your class and won't leave, there is almost no discipline measures from admin so you must deal with things on your own...it goes on from there. Those are just the internal issues, the external issues from the school district are another matter. Moral overall is very low from other teachers and staying positive a full time job in itself. Welcome to all of what was NOT mentioned in the recruiting interview! LOL

That's just my story...I was able to deal with most of the above well and after 15 years with kids, I'd like to seek other pastures if you will.
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naturegirl321



Joined: 04 May 2003
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Location: home sweet home

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you described applied to a lot of people. However, they're usually making a lot less, think $500 at the low end. I know it stinks, but the money's good. Have you looked into teaching at a university in the Middle East? You alraedy have ME experience.

I dealt with similar issues and made $500 to $1500 a month, with no housing. Just to put things into persepctive Smile It's not that bad.

With all that experience, you should be able to get a job just about anywhere. Granted, most of it wasn't teaching English, but you could still go down that road. Try applying and see what happens. You've got nothing to lose.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In another you said you have an MA, that could help.
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tttompatz



Joined: 06 Mar 2010
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pocketplayer wrote:
Thank you...

As mentioned above, am seeking info/experience on the opportunities for one teaching English with my education/experience.
BA
Multiple-Subject Clear Credential
13 Full Time Years Elementary Teacher
2 Years Overseas Experience


Look for international schools if you want similar remuneration to what you get now. http://www.tes.co.uk/jobsSearchResults.aspx?cmd=AddPm&val=JOBCATEGORYCODE|10471&MapName=International is one place to start your search from. The IB schools are another place to look. http://www.ibo.org/

If you want to get into the business sector (as a teacher) you can expect salaries in the $500-1000 range in most of Asia (up to $2000 in Korea). You won't get much farther without a sound grounding in the language of business until you get established and start networking.

If you want to teach at the university level in places like China or Thailand it is do-able with your credentials (even without an MA) but again, the remuneration package is going to be about 60% lower than what you get now (although the cost of living is also VERY low) but your class loads will be in the 12-15 hours per week and the chance to make outside money (equal to or greater than your regular salary) is usually pretty good.

Bottom line: you are a primary school teacher.

There are good jobs teaching primary school (EFL or subjects in English) with decent remuneration packages available all over the planet.

If you want to move into different sectors (ESL, tertiary, teaching business in a language academy) you WILL be starting at the bottom of the heap (ready for entry level again?).

If you want to switch to adults, you should get a decent TESOL cert (in addition to your teaching qualifications). Teaching adults IS different from teaching kids. There are also additional modules for teaching business English, etc.

If you want to stay with the bigger money packages, stay in the ME or head for a G7 country.

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