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audyen
Joined: 11 Jun 2011 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:56 am Post subject: Teaching Jobs in Nagoya |
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Hi all. Just wondering what the ESL job situation is like in Nagoya at the moment? I am considering moving there with the family next year and would appreciate any information on recommended eikaiwas/schools/unis that may be hiring for suitably qualified teachers. Thanks very much |
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Rezz
Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 95
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Lots of opportunity if you're willing to commute 30-60mins each day inside or outside of Aichi. Gifu and Mie have plenty of ALT jobs or there's always Berlitz in Sakae/Meieki who recruit almost every 2-3 months.
AEON/GABA/ECC usually have jobs all around Aichi too but you probably have more chance being recruited abroad than domestically (maybe with the exception of GABA.........). Overall definitely easy to get work, probably the next best place after Tokyo imo. |
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Rooster_2006
Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 984
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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I just landed a gig 40 minutes outside of Nagoya about three months ago, after job hunting in Japan for less than 12 days. I was hired after a Skype interview. I have been working about 40 minutes outside of Nagoya (in Yokkaichi, Mie-ken) for the last three months and things are going great. 250K yen per month (i.e. over $3,000 a month at the current exchange rate) and a large key money-free apartment. I have been banking over 100,000 yen per month after living expenses without living like a monk. Much better conditions and pay than the trolls, flamers, and doom merchants on this forum had led me to believe before I came here!
I have had success so far in the Greater Nagoya Metropolitan area. Maybe you will, too.
Good luck.
In my case, I found my job through an (old) ad on Ohayo Sensei. Lots of people had applied, but most of them were weirdos. Apparently one guy who was applying from Thailand asked my boss for her picture and then he sent her a picture of himself in nothing but a bathing suit!
Of course, I came to Japan suitably qualified (degree, CELTA, 1.5+ years of experience teaching in Taiwan, and some Japanese ability with a JLPT score to back it up). If you have similar or better credentials, decent job-hunting skills (i.e. the ability to make professional-looking cover letters and a decent resume), and are willing to take any reasonable job offer, I think you will be fine.
And mostly importantly, don't let the trolls/flamers/doom merchants get you down. Many of them are just trying to keep out newcomers. I suspect that most of them are either very bitter or they're working for a union/organization to keep new teachers out of the "guild." I had plenty of interview offers when I came here, including one interview arranged before I even stepped off the plane. |
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Inflames
Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 486
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Teaching Jobs in Nagoya |
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audyen wrote: |
Hi all. Just wondering what the ESL job situation is like in Nagoya at the moment? I am considering moving there with the family next year and would appreciate any information on recommended eikaiwas/schools/unis that may be hiring for suitably qualified teachers. Thanks very much |
Can you elaborate on what "suitably qualified" means? Also, will you be on a spouse visa?
It's hard to give advice unless we know those things. |
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deadzenpoet
Joined: 06 Aug 2010 Posts: 71
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:26 am Post subject: |
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Rooster thanks for keeping us updated! It's nice to see someone with firsthand experience looking for work on the ground and then sharing it. |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 1546 Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Just remember Rooster:
You came in during the perfect hiring time and obviously did some prep and had some good luck... believe it or not, not every employer is being faced with nothing but crazys.
Besides the OP is asking about the situation now.
Big difference between people claiming doom and gloom and those who are telling people not to come unless they come at the right time, having done their research and have a decent amount of money in their pocket.
I'm glad things worked out for you, but you write as if your situation is the perfect norm and what everyone can expect to encounter... have you not read about any recent plights such as the one right near the top of the first page of threads?
A decent salary with saving opportunities, large apartment with no key money, (I'm assuming, since you are speaking so positively) a decent workload... I'm in a similar position, but I know more than a few friends who are not. And all anyone has to do is read the current issue of Ohayosensei to see that not all positions are great at the moment, many of the better looking ones are requiring more in the way of qualifications than the average newbie has and there are even stinkers such as this:
ENGLISH TEACHER.
Full-time, 5-6 hours/day, M-Sat. 180,000yen/month. Teach English conversation to students 2-13 years. Teaching location... Native English speaker, BA/BS, and conversational Japanese ability required. Two years experience, and computer programming skills preferred. Sponsorship available. National holidays, school vacation days, and transportation allowance. Position begins January, 2012. Two-year contract... - Edited to remove school and location details (I'm sure anyone with an ounce of computer skills will be able to easily find this ad for themslves if they are curious )
Even I was thinking, "WTH! 180,000 for a 6 day week!!!"
I've been a regular on this forum for long enough to confidently say that whilst some of the posters can be a bit blunt (verging on rude) in how they word their info, most are 'keeping it real' not doom merchants, and the number of trolls/flamers is quite low since the mods do a good job at sending them packing.
I've also seen more than a few posters ignore negative responses to their queries only to come back a couple of months later asking for help when the poop hits the fan. |
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jcook77
Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Posts: 32 Location: Tokyo
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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If you're interested in teaching, hard-working, persistent, ambitious and reliable, there's no way you shouldn't be able to find a decent job at 250K/month in Tokyo, Nagoya or Kansai. I've done it, plenty of friends have done it. Put a little time in, and a lot of opportunities will open up.
Nagoya is a big enough Metro to have jobs available right now. Do some research and jump right in!  |
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Rooster_2006
Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 984
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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jcook77 wrote: |
If you're interested in teaching, hard-working, persistent, ambitious and reliable, there's no way you shouldn't be able to find a decent job at 250K/month in Tokyo, Nagoya or Kansai. I've done it, plenty of friends have done it. Put a little time in, and a lot of opportunities will open up.
Nagoya is a big enough Metro to have jobs available right now. Do some research and jump right in!  |
I agree.
Some people try to make finding a job in Japan seem like a lottery. Those people claim your qualifications don't mean squat, and people are hired based on phases of the moon and direction of the wind (and whether you're a blonde 22-year-old ex-cheerleader). However, finding a job in EFL is not a lottery; it's a game of skill.
Chess is another game of skill. In theory, Gary Kasparov could lose to a seven-year-old at chess. But 999 times out of 1,000, he will win.
It's the same way job hunting here -- get a uni degree, CELTA/CELTYL, at least a year of teaching experience before coming, a JLPT certificate, a good recommendation from your previous employer, etc. and your chances of finding a job will be very, very high. Maybe not 100%, but at least 90%.
And I get so sick of people beating the "I saw some 180K yen posting on some job board, therefore the entire EFL industry is in an irreversible nosedive" horse. Folks, a 180K yen job posting here or there proves ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the industry as a whole.
I'm sure that in the golden age of EFL in Japan in the 1980s, there was some greedy miser somewhere who offered 180K yen a month, as well. Anecdotal examples like that prove nothing.
Yes, job hunting all over Asia has gotten tougher. However, people who meet a minimum qualification level (accredited TEFL cert with supervised teaching practice, uni degree, and 1+ years of teaching experience) should still have little trouble finding jobs in Japan or elsewhere in Asia, at least most of the time. |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 1546 Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Rooster_2006 wrote: |
Those people claim your qualifications don't mean squat, and people are hired based on phases of the moon and direction of the wind (and whether you're a blonde 22-year-old ex-cheerleader).
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I've seen people claiming that whether employers will see worth in ESL experience outside of Japan is case by case.
I've seen people claiming that age is not a big deal and more than a few posters claiming that they came over here when they were far older than that.
Which posters on here have made any of the claims you are talking about?
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And I get so sick of people beating the "I saw some 180K yen posting on some job board, therefore the entire EFL industry is in an irreversible nosedive" horse. Folks, a 180K yen job posting here or there proves ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the industry as a whole.
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See this is exactly what I am talking about.
Re-read exactly what I wrote. Where did I claim "the entire EFL industry is in an irreversible nosedive"? You are the one reading doom and gloom into things that people write.
Did you you not see where I told people that they should come at the right time (as you did... why are you so certain that people would have your fantastic luck mid-June?) so that they can have a better chance of avoiding the less desirable jobs such as the especially shocking one I posted?
Anyone claiming, "What are you waiting for?! Jump on in! The water's great!" is not doing anyone a service.
What solid evidence are you basing your 90% chance figure of getting a decent job if they come over right now? |
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the4th2001
Joined: 04 Oct 2010 Posts: 130 Location: Tokyo
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Rooster_2006 wrote: |
It's the same way job hunting here -- get a uni degree, CELTA/CELTYL, at least a year of teaching experience before coming, a JLPT certificate, a good recommendation from your previous employer, etc. and your chances of finding a job will be very, very high. Maybe not 100%, but at least 90%. |
You're in Mie-ken, yeah? You came almost immediately after the earthquake, yeah? Weren't there tsunami warnings in that area?
. . . By any chance, did you get your position because your predecessor was a flyjin/left the country? |
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Rooster_2006
Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 984
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:59 am Post subject: |
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the4th2001 wrote: |
Rooster_2006 wrote: |
It's the same way job hunting here -- get a uni degree, CELTA/CELTYL, at least a year of teaching experience before coming, a JLPT certificate, a good recommendation from your previous employer, etc. and your chances of finding a job will be very, very high. Maybe not 100%, but at least 90%. |
You're in Mie-ken, yeah? You came almost immediately after the earthquake, yeah? Weren't there tsunami warnings in that area?
. . . By any chance, did you get your position because your predecessor was a flyjin/left the country? |
Nope, he stuck around to train me, and after that, he hit Osaka to go job hunting there. Said he wanted to become an ALT.
The impact of the quake/tsunami on the Kansai Region was absolutely minimal. We didn't even feel the earthquake in Osaka when it hit.
If anything, competition for jobs in the Kansai Region has intensified because of people fleeing Tohoku/Kantou and coming down here to find jobs. Prospective teachers from abroad are also more likely to choose this region now than before, because it was unaffected by the quake/tsunami/nuclear meltdown and by coming here, they can avoid the dangerous areas of the country. |
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