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25000 Kc gross - survival minimum with a zivno?
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ilugru2



Joined: 13 May 2009
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Location: Brno, Czech Republic

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:13 pm    Post subject: 25000 Kc gross - survival minimum with a zivno? Reply with quote

Hello everyone,

I'm about to get a zivno (or whatever it is called now) and try to find some classes/private students (most likely in Brno) starting in September 2010. Having looked at rental rates and the taxes I'll have to pay I figured I'll need to make about 25K gross to keep myself afloat and more if I want to be able to save up/travel. Does this sound realistic to you or am I missing something?
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spiral78



Joined: 05 Apr 2004
Posts: 11534
Location: On a Short Leash

PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rent is the wild card here, but 25,000 should be feasible, outside Prague. I am also not sure what you'll net exactly - 20,000 would be good, but it's more likely to be around 18,000 - and that's just about what it takes to live.

The CR simply isn't lavish with pay Shocked
But I guess you already know that.

As I guess you already know that private students are pretty undependable and can be difficult to scratch up - you kinda need a local rep, contacts, and preferably language skills to get much.

Worst case, you go with a language school part time - or even full time if you can, while you build your base of privates or try to land direct contracts with companies in the area.
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ilugru2



Joined: 13 May 2009
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Location: Brno, Czech Republic

PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, spiral78.

I hope to rent a 1+ for about 8000-8500 Kc (bills included), health insurance plus social security payments amount to around 3300 Kc monthly. I was advised to estimate taxes as 15% of 50% income, which makes roughly 1500-2000. Then I'll have around 12K to spend - not much, but seemingly feasible. Am I leaving anything out?

Yes, I hope to get some classes from a language school, possibly more than one school actually, and start to build up a client base. My (sort of) area of expertise is exam preparation, Cambridge and IELTS - is there much demand for this now in Czech?
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smithryansmith



Joined: 27 Dec 2008
Posts: 75

PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should be ok. Cambridge prep will always be big here. probably more individual lessons for exam prep.

What Ive seen lately are the people who go out and look for clients are successful. Those who write lang schools and wait for jobs to fall in their laps have trouble. because there are still jobs. its just employers can afford to be pickier than in the past.
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smithryansmith



Joined: 27 Dec 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 25000 Kc gross - survival minimum with a zivno? Reply with quote

ilugru2 wrote:
Hello everyone,

I'm about to get a zivno (or whatever it is called now) and try to find some classes/private students (most likely in Brno) starting in September 2010. Having looked at rental rates and the taxes I'll have to pay I figured I'll need to make about 25K gross to keep myself afloat and more if I want to be able to save up/travel. Does this sound realistic to you or am I missing something?


Just noticed youre in Moscow. Im sure salaries there were a lot higher than prague
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ilugru2



Joined: 13 May 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that's true - I can make about 2,5k Usd here in a good month, but the thing is that I'm sick of Moscow and really need a change. Want to spend some time in a quieter place (I actually want to stay away even from Prague, if I can afford it) and see if I can make a living there and not get bored in a couple of months Smile
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Mercury Morris



Joined: 28 Jun 2009
Posts: 27
Location: Prague

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:50 pm    Post subject: Usually don't earn that much Reply with quote

25k ck is unusually high earnings in Prague. Most ESL teachers at the schools earn around 15,000 czk/month, which fluctuates widely depending on holidays, students cancelling, etc.

Further in Brno you will earn much less than in Prague...I would guess 10-12,000 czk. But cost of living will be cheaper too.

Nobody earns 25,000 czk teaching ESL in Czech...unless they own the school! Laughing
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mr tree



Joined: 09 Oct 2007
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Location: Prague, CzR

PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

depends. a friend of mine gets 30k a month, but works his arse off to get that much. i pull in around 25k a month, but that's 14k office work, 6-7k teaching at a language school (5 classes a week), 8k private teaching (4-5 students a week). i think it is important to give not just the "lazy" end of the scale, Morris...
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ilugru2



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