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gloomyGumi
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 Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:44 am Post subject: Apostilles, CBCs and Malaysia |
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I have 1 original BA diploma left, and cannot get more. Nor can I send it back from Korea to NJ, USA to get it notarized then apostilled as no one is there to do it for me. Nor do I want to permanently surrender my last BA diploma to any school or body.
In Korea, if your CBC shows any previous proiblem even misdemeanors like driving with a suspended license or DUI, it gets rejected by Korean Immi.
Are apostilles/CBCs as strict in Malaysia as this? |
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KayuJati
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Never let anyone put a stamp on your original degree script. If they need a "Certified True Copy", which is what an apostille is, have them photocopy and cop the copy as a CTC. Make sure they sign the CTC in blue ink as that shows as an original signature. Black ink will be accused of being a photocopied signature. |
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tttompatz
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:19 am Post subject: |
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| KayuJati wrote: |
No.
Never let anyone put a stamp on your original degree script. If they need a "Certified True Copy", which is what an apostille is, have them photocopy and cop the copy as a CTC. Make sure they sign the CTC in blue ink as that shows as an original signature. Black ink will be accused of being a photocopied signature. |
umm... no.
The apostille is a form of legalization of documents for international use and is done by your foreign office (FCO in the UK) or secretary of state (in the US) AFTER the notary has certified the document as a "true copy" of the original.
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KayuJati
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:39 am Post subject: |
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Yes, an apostille is an international "certified true copy" for legal purposes. But for non-legal purposes, such as applying for a job, if one has the original document (such as a degree script), then that can be photocopied and certified by someone with a stamp that it is a true copy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostille_convention
In 16 years of working in Malaysia, as a program director and lecturer, and having the government look at my degree scripts and resume and applications for work permits and etc. (ad nauseum), never have I been asked for an apostille (international CTC). They always ask the college to photocopy and stamp (CTC) the original documents, which I keep in a safe place.
But, of course, I have never:
-married a local
-had my wife give birth in a local hospital
-applied for some important government position (always at private schools)
-been arrested
-etc.
So, maybe those cases may require an apostille of some paper from my home country. I can't think of what that might be unless it is a marriage or divorce certificate, or birth certificate.
Basically, gloomyGumi has questions about working in Malaysia, not the other cases, so I suggest that he bring his original documents down with him and have them certified as a true copy by someone at the college where he is applying. Malaysia is not a stickler about the use of a French word.
The only exceptions that I have experienced are when myself and a relative, in separate applications back to our home country, were required to have a Notary Public stamp and certify the documents. This is because our home country assumes that everyone lives there or else every nation uses NPs. There is a local lawyer who gladly takes our money to apply his stamp. (But, at least, his assistant is cute.  ) |
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gloomyGumi
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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Malaysia is not a stickler about the use of a French word.
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good. I hated that word the 1st time I ever saw it, had to get one b4 coming to Korea, and hope I never have 2 go thru that mess again. People who worked at my state capital's government offices barely knew what the &^%* it was and how to execute the procedure properly.
Are you saying that only my original (and LAST ONE  ) BA diploma will provide all the necessary copies/notarized etc. for me to be legally eligible for jobs in Malaysia? |
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Kana65
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Location: Malaysia
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| KayuJati wrote: |
But, of course, I have never:
-married a local
-So, maybe those cases may require an apostille of some paper from my home country. I can't think of what that might be unless it is a marriage or divorce certificate, or birth certificate.
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I am married to a Malaysian and as part of the paperwork requirement for marriage in Malaysia I had to get a form from my local clerk/recorder where I lived in the US showing that I was not married. This was a certified original (certified by a notary public - American equaivelent of Commisioner of Oaths). My father also wrote a letter stating I wasn't married and this was was also certified.
As far as applying for a job, it's the same as any other foreigner I think have my original degrees photocopied and "witnessed"by my employer (my most recent employer didn't ask for certified copies.) They used to also ask for a certified copy of my marriage certificate and a wedding photo as my employers were applying under the spouse program but now I have already applied for permanent residency so they don't ask for that every time anymore. Plus spouses now get a spouse visa which they keep regardless of where they work and then a stamp showing your current place of employment. The law has been simplfied in that regard the last few years. They used to be two different things-you either got one or the other depending on your employment status.
I've only had to show a certified copy of my birth certificate twice in Malaysia- Once upon application for entering the spouse program and once upon submitting my application for permanent residency. I've never had to show it for an employment pass or stamp. |
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gloomyGumi
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:17 am Post subject: |
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| as a North American married to a South American, we will be going together to Malaysia. We have our marriage cert with us of course. Is my original BA enough to get a job and work visa and will she quickly be able to get a Spouse visa like she did here in Korea? |
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