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Gus3



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:11 am    Post subject: Going to Japan to look for work. Reply with quote

I'm a recent college graduate and I'm planing to take a trip to Japan within the next couple of months to look for work. From Chicago to Osaka. I've tried signing up with a few of the eikaiwa and ALT companies here in the U.S. but its been a bit of a hassle. Most hold hiring sessions months apart and often require traveling to different parts of the U.S. or Canada for the interview, which can be pretty expensive in itself.

I've noticed that most listings for jobs in Japan, such as on Gaijinpot, require applicants to already reside in Japan. My plan is now to go to Japan using my landing permit and stay at a hostel for the full three months while looking for work.

What I'm looking for here is advice from anyone who has experience with this. Any bit of information would help. Such as:

1. How much money should I bring with me?
2. Should I use cash or travelers checks?
3. Is the whole process of applying, getting an interview and getting the job generally shorter then when you apply overseas?
4. What are the essentials that should bring along with me? (Paperwork, toiletries, type of clothing, etc.)
5. Should I buy a one way or round trip ticket and where do I go to get a good deal?
6. How important is it to know the language? My Japanese is limited to simple phrases that most tourists would be familiar with.

Anything you think I should know, post it. You have my thanks. Very Happy


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Mr_Monkey



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be aware that when an advert says "applicants must currently reside in Japan", it usually means "we are not going to sponsor your visa". Having a three month tourist visa will not help if the school doesn't want to sponsor you.
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deadzenpoet



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you been to Osaka before? Do you have an actual plan on how you are going to apply to the schools? What are your qualifications? Do you know what hostEL you are staying at?

I know Osaka well but I wouldn't be comfortable looking for work unless I had at least $4,000 to back me up for 3 months. Use a credit card to take out cash there. A decent hostel should provide most necessities. I know of one in Umeda. You can get around fine without knowing Japanese but you will probably have to be very aggressive and patient in the job search. I'm not sure finding a school to sponsor you is a guarantee in the short term. Dress lightly til fall for it is humid there at this time. I always ponder moving back there myself but lack the cash and confidence for now. Good luck and please keep us posted!
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TokyoLiz



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's cheaper and more expedient to travel to those hiring sessions in the US and Canada.

What Mr_Monkey said. When you see "Applicant must reside in Japan" it is almost always code for are not willing to go through the initial visa sponsorship.

I'd say, walking in cold, you would need close to $5000 to cover expenses even if you get hired by a company on the US side. Startup in Japan costs yennies.

You didn't say whether you have an elementary school or high school qualification, or a TESOL qualification.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:44 am    Post subject: Re: Going to Japan to look for work. Reply with quote

Gus3 wrote:
I'm a recent college graduate and I'm planing to take a trip to Japan within the next couple of months to look for work. From Chicago to Osaka. I've tried signing up with a few of the eikaiwa and ALT companies here in the U.S. but its been a bit of a hassle. Most hold hiring sessions months apart and often require traveling to different parts of the U.S. or Canada for the interview, which can be pretty expensive in itself.
Unless you restrict yourself to one city in Japan, you may find this to be the same here, too.

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I've noticed that most listings for jobs in Japan, such as on Gaijinpot, require applicants to already reside in Japan.
No, please, I wish people would stop posting this.
#1, GP is not the only game in town. Read the FAQ stickies for other places to look for posted jobs.
#2, I recently posted about a quick scan of job sites (perhaps OhayoSensei), and I proved the above statement wrong. You just aren't looking around enough.
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My plan is now to go to Japan using my landing permit and stay at a hostile for the full three months while looking for work.
I hope you mean "hostel".

1. How much money should I bring with me?
As has been posted for years, bring US$4000-5000.

2. Should I use cash or travelers checks?
Travelers' checks will be the safest for a large sum, but you will not be able to cash them everywhere. I'd say bring a chunk in Japanese cash and the rest in TC's (in yen to get the best exchange).

3. Is the whole process of applying, getting an interview and getting the job generally shorter then when you apply overseas?

Large chains will still have their recruiting schedule. As for others, essentially yes, it will be shorter, but it depends on when they advertise vs. when they want the job to start.

4. What are the essentials that should bring along with me? (Paperwork, toiletries, type of clothing, etc.)
Paperwork: birth certificate, degree, driver's license (and proof that you have had it for more than 3 months since the last renewal). Make a resume beforehand, too, but customize your cover letters.
Toiletries: Japan has it all, so bring enough for a short period. If you are planning to be in a hot area, you may want to bring extra antiperspirant because Japan's isn't very good IMO.
Clothing: Only enough for the first 2 seasons. Suit and ties for sure, dress clothes to mix and match for 5 days, casual clothes to mix and match for 3-4 days. 2 pairs of shoes, one casual and 2 for formal.
Miscellaneous: laptop, prescription meds.

5. Should I buy a one way or round trip ticket and where do I go to get a good deal?
Airlines won't let you come with no visa using a one-way ticket.

6. How important is it to know the language? My Japanese is limited to simple phrases that most tourists would be familiar with.
How important is it? For daily survival in a large city, moderately so to not at all. In rural areas, more so. Don't stop studying.

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Anything you think I should know, post it.
When exactly are you coming? "Next couple of months" is a bit vague, and after October sets in, there will be a long dry period of few jobs opening. Realize, too, that August's Obon period will have many places closed, so interviewing will be stopped then, plus schools will be on holiday. Travel during that time will be hard to come by, too.
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Gus3



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deadzenpoet wrote:
Have you been to Osaka before? Do you have an actual plan on how you are going to apply to the schools? What are your qualifications? Do you know what hostEL you are staying at?

I know Osaka well but I wouldn't be comfortable looking for work unless I had at least $4,000 to back me up for 3 months. Use a credit card to take out cash there. A decent hostel should provide most necessities. I know of one in Umeda. You can get around fine without knowing Japanese but you will probably have to be very aggressive and patient in the job search. I'm not sure finding a school to sponsor you is a guarantee in the short term. Dress lightly til fall for it is humid there at this time. I always ponder moving back there myself but lack the cash and confidence for now. Good luck and please keep us posted!


I have never been to Osaka. I'm going to apply to multiple job listings on the internet. Although I know that there are alternatives. There are schools that hire ALTs directly correct? How are the prospects for that? I recently graduated with a degree in fiction writing. I'm not TESOL certified. If I could find a course at decent price I would take it. As for a hostel, I've already made a list of a few hostels that offer good deals for long term stays. What places would you recommend?
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Direct hiring of ALTs/AETs is reported not to be done very often, and it usually requires some good experience in teaching plus contacts. Go ahead, but don't put your eggs in one basket.
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deadzenpoet



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This hostel is about 20 min walk to JR Osaka.
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/umeda/dormitory/

I haven't done hostel research lately but as far as I know, this is the only one near Umeda. Umeda is the most centrally located in relevance to trains and other places in Kansai. Most of the other hostels are in south Osaka and maybe too inconvenient for you. It is very well-run by a nice couple. Being close to Umeda will help you familiarize yourself a little more with the train areas for they are crazy confusing at times with all the masses of shopping centers underground.
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Gus3



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After thinking about, I've decided to postpone my trip until Spring. Until then I'm just going to keep applying for eikaiwa or ALT jobs. So, what would be ideal month to go?
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jillybean



Joined: 01 Jul 2011
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Location: JAPAN

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jan-Mar. would probably be the best time to go, that's when the majority of hiring is done for the start of the school year (in April). It's quite slow any other time....UNLESS you already have a visa.
I don't know if most banks even use travelers checks anymore. I tried to get some before I left but BoA doesn't carry them anymore. Also, I would bring one of those small, portable wifi devices with you. You're really going to need quick access to internet and email during your job search and you might not always have access to a good connection.
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