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Teaching university in Canada/US

 
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speakyword



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:47 am    Post subject: Teaching university in Canada/US Reply with quote

I'm just wondering if anyone has any information about the job market in Canada (or the US as I think it might be closely related). I am teaching abroad right now. I am going to start an MA. program soon (I'm not sure where yet) and that will qualify me to teach university here. But I am wondering what I would have to do to teach university in Canada one day.

Also, when I am considering MA. programs. What might North American schools be looking for? At this point I have to study via a distance program as I cannot leave the country for long periods of time. But other than that, what would help? I am considering either The University of Leicester (2.5 year online MA TESOL and Applied Linguistics) or possibly The University of Auckland (1 year MA TESOL) but I am worried that a 1 year Masters will not be taken seriously.

Any information on the subject of the North American university job market would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the most part, for teaching in a university in Canada (an most decent universities in the states) you need a Ph.D in your field of study or terminal degree (MBA for business schools) in your field of study.

If you want to consider a community college (2 year programs or university transfer programs) then a recognized MA/M.Sc/PhD are required.

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rtm



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tttompatz wrote:
For the most part, for teaching in a university in Canada (an most decent universities in the states) you need a Ph.D in your field of study or terminal degree (MBA for business schools) in your field of study.

That's not entirely correct. It depends on whether the OP wants to teach ESL at a university, or if he wants to teach 'content' courses (i.e., either teacher training or something in a different field). Things may be different for Canada, but I used to teach in an intensive ESL program at a very large public university in the US, and of the 20 full-time faculty in the program, not a single one had a Ph.D. Everyone had an MA in TESOL. From what I understand, most university ESL programs require instructors to have an MA, preferably in TESOL, and many prefer at least 2 years post-MA experience. More of the ads for these types of jobs are saying Ph.D. preferred, but not many people with PhDs aren't applying for them.

To respond to the OP, I agree with you that a 1-year MA will not be taken as seriously, especially if it is done online. If I were you, I'd do the longer one.
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I had not considered teaching ESL (in Canada usually as an outside program for international students intending to move into university studies) but (when I wrote that) I was thinking of teaching subjects (like becoming a lecturer/professor in a MATESOL or similar type program).

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speakyword



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, yes. I was just talking about teaching ESL in university. Also, community colleges are fine too. I just want to make sure I have something of worth and interest to do in Canada should I decide to return home. And good to know about the one year program
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santi84



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm from British Columbia. If you are interested in teaching ESL in a Canadian university (or university-college) then yes, an MA in TESOL is the standard minimum (along with TESL Canada Professional Level III). In B.C., schools are looking for instructors who can teach using CALL as well as experience in Asia (specifically China and Korea). Of course, there are plenty of instructors whose experience is from other areas, but that might help give you an edge - unfortunately the competition is extremely stiff here in Canada! I can't think of many instructors who did not have a bare minimum of 10 years overseas experience.
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speakyword



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, that's great to know. Anyways, I've got a few years in Korea under my belt at this point and am not planning to leave Asia anytime soon... so that with an MA TESOL is at least working towards what I'll need if I wanted to teach in Canada eventually (I'm from BC too). So I'm happy to hear that. Thanks very much!
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:55 am    Post subject: Re: Teaching university in Canada/US Reply with quote

One year master's are taken seriously, but as people have said usually to teach in a uni in Canada or the US, you need a PhD. BUt it has been done if you only have an MA and uni teaching experience.

I have a couple friends teaching online with only Masters degrees. Depends on the university. Religious ones may be easier as well. I thought there was a doctorate of business as well.

Try PMing denise. She recenlty moved back to the US.


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