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brokenarm22



Joined: 15 Aug 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:12 pm    Post subject: I want to teach in Japan. Reply with quote

There is a course for TEOFL at my local University this september. Would that greatly improve my chances to get a job in Japan? Its through OXFORD seminars.

What else shoudl I know about teaching in Japan? Are privates easy to find? I had a friend who was there for 3 years and claimed he saved over 80k. Now, I dont really know this person that well, but this is what he claimed.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks
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TokyoLiz



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Tokyo, Japan

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You ought to work on your spelling and terminology. Your post was riddled with errors.

TOEFL is the Test of English as a Foreign Language. This is a hoop for English learners to jump through. Please research the field before you post!

Oxford Seminars, TESOL certificates or the CELTA will prepare you in the most basic way for teaching a particular type of student - adult English learners, or young learners, for example.

However, without Japan experience and Japanese language skill, you will only get entry level jobs - eikaiwa or dispatch ALT jobs that hire from abroad. Entry level jobs pay as low as Y220,000. We've seen people post here about dispatch jobs that pay that low.

Please read the FAQs carefully.

My neighbour, a Canadian, put away over $50,000 in three years. However, he worked 15 hour days, both an ALT dispatch company and the notorious GEOS.
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It's Scary!



Joined: 17 Apr 2011
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But, s/he used and spelt "there" correctly!

It's Scary!
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please take the time to read the FAQ stickies and do some basic research.

1. To get a work visa here, you need a bachelor's degree in any major, or 3 years of related work experience. The vast majority of people have the former.

2. The market in Japan is terribly crowded right now, so that even entry level jobs in eikaiwa and ALT outfits get 20-100 applicants per job, sometimes more.

3. Just a degree may not be enough. Even certification might fall short. Many/Most employers want a demo lesson, so even with a teaching-related degree and cert, you would have to "perform". Then, there is the panel interview, the grammar tests by some employers, etc. Personality and chemistry (perceived by the employer) are also factors.

4. You'll have to pay your way here in the vast majority of cases. If you can't get hired from abroad by the few places that recruit overseas, you'll have to spend US44000-5000 to set yourself up here (at the right time) and look around for 2-3 months. First paycheck may take 4-6 weeks.

As to your "friend" who made 80K in 3 years, it would be nice to know when that was, what jobs (plural) he had, and how/where he lived before we can say whether his story is BS. That's about 27,000 dollars per year in savings, or $2200 per month, which is pretty much all you get paid pre-deductions from entry level jobs, so you can see how the math gets a little fuzzy.
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G Cthulhu



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Location: Way, way off course.

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:49 am    Post subject: Re: I want to teach in Japan. Reply with quote

brokenarm22 wrote:
Would that greatly improve my chances to get a job in Japan? Its through OXFORD seminars.


Completely worthless. Do a real course that has academic standing.
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highroadtochina



Joined: 09 Aug 2011
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: I want to teach in Japan. Reply with quote

brokenarm22 wrote:
There is a course for TEOFL at my local University this september. Would that greatly improve my chances to get a job in Japan? Its through OXFORD seminars.

What else shoudl I know about teaching in Japan? Are privates easy to find? I had a friend who was there for 3 years and claimed he saved over 80k. Now, I dont really know this person that well, but this is what he claimed.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks

Have you thought about the JET programme? You need to get your degree in anything first. If you can in to the programme you will be on a good wicket! Very competitive but well worth a try.
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TTTT



Joined: 29 May 2011
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take the Oxford Seminar course if you have the time and money. I took one before my first job in Japan at an Eikaiwa. Honestly it's not going to hurt your resume for entry level work and you might learn something.
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Mr_Monkey



Joined: 11 Mar 2009
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Location: Kyuuuuuushuuuuuuu

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TTTT wrote:
4Honestly it's not going to hurt your resume for entry level work and you might learn something.
Wow! I wish every course came with a recommendation like that!

Seriously, get a CELTA or a Trinity Cert TESOL. If you can't, please don't come to Japan.
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brokenarm22



Joined: 15 Aug 2010
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr_Monkey wrote:
TTTT wrote:
4Honestly it's not going to hurt your resume for entry level work and you might learn something.
Wow! I wish every course came with a recommendation like that!

Seriously, get a CELTA or a Trinity Cert TESOL. If you can't, please don't come to Japan.


Care to expand on that?
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spidr245



Joined: 26 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

brokenarm22 wrote:
Mr_Monkey wrote:
TTTT wrote:
4Honestly it's not going to hurt your resume for entry level work and you might learn something.
Wow! I wish every course came with a recommendation like that!

Seriously, get a CELTA or a Trinity Cert TESOL. If you can't, please don't come to Japan.


Care to expand on that?


(Correct me if I'm wrong but) I think what she means is you'll be wasting your time if you don't. You'll just be another dime-a-dozen worker (probably with no real rights).

But if you don't mind working like that, then by all means go right away.
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Mr_Monkey



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brokenarm22 wrote:
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Seriously, get a CELTA or a Trinity Cert TESOL. If you can't, please don't come to Japan.


Care to expand on that?


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(Correct me if I'm wrong but) I think what she means is you'll be wasting your time if you don't. You'll just be another dime-a-dozen worker (probably with no real rights).

But if you don't mind working like that, then by all means go right away.
Pretty much.

Brokenarm22, you'll also spend the first six months learning how to teach, if you learn at all - the 'training' provided by many schools out here is laughable. If, like many, you leave after one year, you'll have basically wasted your students' time for half of that.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spidr245 wrote:
brokenarm22 wrote:
Mr_Monkey wrote:
TTTT wrote:
4Honestly it's not going to hurt your resume for entry level work and you might learn something.
Wow! I wish every course came with a recommendation like that!

Seriously, get a CELTA or a Trinity Cert TESOL. If you can't, please don't come to Japan.


Care to expand on that?


(Correct me if I'm wrong but) I think what she means is you'll be wasting your time if you don't. You'll just be another dime-a-dozen worker (probably with no real rights).
No certification is going to give a teacher rights in Japan.
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