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lizziebennet
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 Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:07 am Post subject: OMR700 without flight etc! |
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| monthly salary is OMR 700 ($1,820). The instructors are required to pay for their own roundtrip airfare to/from Muscat, accommodation, local transportation and health insurance, and possibly to become members of AISEC ($500 membership fee). |
What is Oman coming to these days? Not only do you get paid less but you also have to pay for your own flight, your own accommodation, transport and health insurance... Plus they expect you to pay for some sort of membership fee that costs OR200...
Basically you would be working for $1000 a month if you think of all the extra things you would have to pay for. I guess if you want to do charity work that could be ok but you would have to live on a budget.
What does everyone else think? |
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caravanesque
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:36 am Post subject: 700 OMR |
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| Please let us have the context, impossible to comment without knowing whether school or Uni, with a BA or PhD, etc. |
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Middle East Beast
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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I saw this job post yesterday and I couldn't believe it either! I could clear a better salary at WalMart or McDonalds.
I agree, this ad by AMIDEAST is offensive. It's a new low for TEFL employers.
C'mon, people, let's just say NO! to such insane "offers." This has got to stop. If NO ONE responds to this ad they'll get a strong message.
AMIDEAST should be ashamed. What the heck is AMIDEAST anyway?
If this is what Oman is coming to, they deserve NO teachers at all.
If you want the details, the ad is posted here on Dave's job board, folks.
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caravanesque
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:32 pm Post subject: @ middle east beast |
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Don't worry, I certainly won't be applying fore this anytime soon, would rather wash cars full-time at my local mall, and probably make more ...
But ...
I've recently spoken to several recruiters and they claim the ME job market for ESL/EFL is flooded, and they can just about pick and choose, and decide what they want to pay.
I'm just guessing what's going on - the job market in North America and the UK is lurching from bad to worse, and as we all know, the US economy may very well soon go bust.
Presumably these positions are aimed at beginners, with a first degree, who want to get work experience.
They don't mention quals or experience needed, so they don't expect much? |
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Middle East Beast
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: @ middle east beast |
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Don't worry, I certainly won't be applying fore this anytime soon, would rather wash cars full-time at my local mall, and probably make more ...
But ...
I've recently spoken to several recruiters and they claim the ME job market for ESL/EFL is flooded, and they can just about pick and choose, and decide what they want to pay.
I'm just guessing what's going on - the job market in North America and the UK is lurching from bad to worse, and as we all know, the US economy may very well soon go bust.
Presumably these positions are aimed at beginners, with a first degree, who want to get work experience.
They don't mention quals or experience needed, so they don't expect much? |
You're right, they don't specify experience or credentials. But they do list an abundance of duties, and they require three references.
I wonder about this flood of applicants when I look at Dave's job board and tefl.com's as well...some of the same employers in the ME have had their ads remain posted for months, and others have reposted time and again.
The US economy tanked three years ago, so that's nothing new.
I wonder what's really going on.
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Space Teacher
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| Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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I have become less amazed and more accustomed to the surprising number of individuals who take positions such as this.
The minimum amount of research that, one would think, would normally be required before undertaking employment, is just not entered into (sadly) by a "large proportion of TEFLERS".
I expect they will find a number of "young, trusting and honest" teachers who will no doubt find out the hard way that they have been misled.
I note with disdain, they also do not offer even a years contract! |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:51 am Post subject: |
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It appears to be a contract with AIESEC... which I had never heard of... and I suspect that they are setting the pay scale and benefits - or rather complete lack thereof. I just googled them up and this is an organization that uses "interns."
http://www.aiesec.org/
So that explains the low pay. It seems that it is a semi-volunteer sort of thing. You may have noted that there were no credentials required. It seems that the ad just wasn't written very clearly. I suspect that this is a summer school program using education majors in US universities... though I am just speculating. |
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lizziebennet
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| Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| The start date is September 15, 2011 and anticipated end date is July 25, 2012. |
I thought it might be a summer gig but then I read the start date and anticipated end date and it is an academic year...
But the teaching is up to 25 hours per week which is a lot and you have to teach 9th graders which are quite a handful.
Only someone who was 'volunteering' would accept an offer like that so that must be it... |
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veiledsentiments
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Since this AIESEC says that it hires "interns" - it is probably a one semester gig for the teachers.
I remember looking into one of those big international volunteer teaching organizations and they had this like 20 page application, demanded tons of experience, to teach in primitive corners of the world for no pay... while the teacher pays nearly all expenses to get there and back and live. I always wondered how they found anyone that wanted to do this. 
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lizziebennet
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I recently met a lovely bunch of American volunteers that were working in Yemen up until a few months ago. They were hanging out in Oman and the UAE with the hope of returning when things cooled down... Things didn't of course. They were working for an NGO in the sort of situation you described above. They really missed Yemen.
Don't get me wrong there are some lovely people who are willing to do that... They did not have a lot of experience though; they were mostly fresh out of uni... |
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runninggirl
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| Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:52 am Post subject: Quality vs Professionalism |
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Backpackers love these kinds of jobs where they can drop in for a few months make some cash and "feel" they lived in country.
I met backpackers when I lived 12 yrs in Latin America who did this and with no training or intent of career moved on when they tired. The schools got English speakers who were able to bluff their way through teaching and were happy with food and lodging. There will always be such but it is a big leap to official teachers from what the volunteers can offer.
Corporations have turned to slick advertising to get free workers. When I do turn on the t.v. news they are consistently encouraging average citizens to send in story ideas and photos to be "published on the air". ? This has added to the elimination of the paying jobs of professional journalists and professional photographers. It is Hard to compete against free even if the "free" is bad quality. |
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veiledsentiments
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Go check out the website. I don't think that this is one of those organizations that picks up backpackers. I suspect that they will only hire education majors even if they are still in process...
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Middle East Beast
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Well, if that's true VS, then for OMR 700 they can go jump off a cliff.
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Middle East Beast
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One more comment...what the hell is wrong with Oman, anyway? It seems that a cap of OMR 1400 has been placed on the total package throughout the country!
You have to find and pay for your apartment and utilities out of that.
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veiledsentiments
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Go back and read the link to the organization. These are interns... mostly kids in the process of getting their first degree... in education.
These are not standard contracts. It is sort of a poor education major's pseudo-Fulbright.
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