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Criminal Backgroud check and other questions

 
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Aelric



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:43 am    Post subject: Criminal Backgroud check and other questions Reply with quote

Hey all. I've been teaching the past year freelance in Thailand and before that spent 2 years in South Korea EPIK program. Thailand isn't really giving me any chances to save and I need to start making a bit more money for the next year or so so I can afford to get married and help my Filipino Fiancee immigrate back to the states. Thus, I'm looking towards Japan and China. China, I know I'd find work easy enough but is the land of a million scams, while Japan is famous for stable work but high costs of living. Considering I'm happy living a pretty simple and sober lifestyle, I figure Japan still works out to the greatest savings each month.

So, that said, I have an issue that is actually barring me from going back to Korea as an option. I have and arrest on my record. There were no charges pressed, I was picked up on a sweep of a protest where some kids starting throwing rocks and I got caught up in it. I was working as a photographer at the time for my college newspaper and once I explained that to the judge, he released me and I never heard of it again until a month ago when I got my FBI background check sent back to me while I was preparing to return to Korea showing the arrest on the record. Now, Korea is VERY strict about that and won't issue VISAs unless your record is blank of anything and my real question is, how is Japan on this? Will they be understanding in the ALT or other programs that this was an arrest and not a conviction, or even a misdemeanor? Will is be a school will hire me but the government won't give a VISA situation like Korea? Should I not even bother and just go to China, even though my experience would likely net me a better starting pay in Japan?

I can get my record expunged no problem, but the legal fee for that is about half of what I make in a month here in Thailand and as I mentioned, I haven't been able to save due to having to bounce from school to school and live off whatever I save every few months (I don't recommend Thailand BTW if you are considering it, it's been a rough year for me here.)

Anyone with experience on this, please let me know. Thanks.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No conviction means a lot. I honestly don't think you'll have any problems with Japanese immigration.

I don't think any employer asks for a copy of your criminal record, maybe JET does, but I'll let our resident JET expert G Cthulhu go over that point.

How long ago was this incident, anyway? That may also be something in your favor.
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G Cthulhu



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Criminal Backgroud check and other questions Reply with quote

I have nothing to add other than to say there is no reason to put "visa" in capital letters. Unless you are talking about the credit card company. Their marketing department must be very happy. :roll:

Oh, and Japan requires a background these days. Arrest and discharge aren't likely to stop you getting a visa.
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seklarwia



Joined: 20 Jan 2009
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Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano

PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
I don't think any employer asks for a copy of your criminal record, maybe JET does, but I'll let our resident JET expert G Cthulhu go over that point.

Most public school ALT employers do these days. All the big dispatchers certainly do.

I was asked to supply a recent one: no more than 3 or 6 months old... I can't remember which it was anymore.
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steki47



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seklarwia wrote:

Most public school ALT employers do these days. All the big dispatchers certainly do.

I was asked to supply a recent one: no more than 3 or 6 months old... I can't remember which it was anymore.


Really? I just started at a large ALT dispatch company and I don't recall being asked. Don't quote me, I will try to check.

In fact, I have 2-3 arrests on my American record from about 20 years ago. Arrests, no convictions. And I got a work visa through a large eikaiwa chain.
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Butonz



Joined: 07 Mar 2011
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the JET website.

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5) Results of a FBI Background Check - ONLY if applicable (1 original and 2 photocopies):You must submit an FBI background check if you have ever been arrested, charged and/or convicted of any crime other than a minor traffic offense (ie. speeding or parking ticket), including a juvenile offense. Failure to disclose information related to your criminal history that is found later in the process may result in disqualification. (Please note that all successful candidates will be requested to submit FBI background checks after the results are announced.)


I don't know if this means all companies require a background check, but it certainly establishes a precedent.
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seklarwia



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

steki47 wrote:
Really? I just started at a large ALT dispatch company and I don't recall being asked. Don't quote me, I will try to check.

Was that your first job since arriving in Japan or after an extended stay abroad? They are more concerned about any convictions you have prior to coming to Japan. It would be pretty easy to find out about any records you picked whilst in Japan. Besides if you picked up any serious convictions here you'd probably be deported (after any jail time of course).
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Inflames



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seklarwia wrote:

Was that your first job since arriving in Japan or after an extended stay abroad? They are more concerned about any convictions you have prior to coming to Japan. It would be pretty easy to find out about any records you picked whilst in Japan. Besides if you picked up any serious convictions here you'd probably be deported (after any jail time of course).


I did a search and actually it seems as though cops here only issue background checks if you're going overseas and need it (and you need to have a document showing it's needed). No place in Japan cares about a background check (Japanese people are on the honor system for criminal records) or even checking someone's last place of work - I knew someone who got fired for sexual harassment then got a job with the biggest ALT company 2 weeks later.

About being arrested or convicted here, it all depends on whether or not you're related to a Japanese person. I know of one person who was arrested pouring gasoline down the stairs to a nightclub and spent 6 months in jail. He had a wife and kid so he didn't get deported.
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bobbysix



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you actually apply for the visa and were turned down by Korean immigration?
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Aelric



Joined: 16 Dec 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, but under advisement from Footprints, My recruiters, they said the the likelihood of getting a work visa would be slim to none even as Korea as been throwing up more and more red tape as applicants cruise in and their reaction to the growing foreigner population occasionally results in a xenophobic law or two. Remember, Korea is the country that will fly you over, give you a job, then fire you if you have HIV and charge you for the ticket.
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steki47



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seklarwia wrote:
Was that your first job since arriving in Japan or after an extended stay abroad? They are more concerned about any convictions you have prior to coming to Japan.


This is not my first job in Japan. I came over years ago with Nova. Came back a second time with a small eikaiwa on the old visa renewal I got from Nova 3 months before they died.
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