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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:15 pm Post subject: Things that would be questionable back home but.. |
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Sometimes when we speak with students, we might be surprised by some things that they assume are normal behavior in their countries.
In another thread, a poster mentioned about going without health insurance, stating that the teacher would return back home and use the national health insurance in his native country (when and if required). From what was later stated, it sounded quasi-legal where the poster was working, but since I don't work there, I can't really judge, though it was stated that proof of health insurance was needed to get a work visa there, but I don't know if that is an ongoing requirement where the poster works or not (it is in Japan where I work, and a employee has to be enrolled in the national insurance or a acceptable equivalent).
What was interesting was that the poster said he did it to save money...
so I thought the link to the thread below might be of interest.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=4201
In Japan, I enjoy doing some things that are definitely illegal in the US.
1) Drinking alcohol on the street
In the US, most public areas are covered by open container laws in most states. So technically, drinking beer in the open on your front law could be construed as a violation. In Japan, often parks post no drinking alcohol signs, but most people get around it by drinking out of concealed containers in places where they check. Walking to the station with a beer is a pleasure for me when I'm on vacation and meeting friends, or simply a usual activity for some people prior to going out (cheaper than the bar, even during happy hour).
2) Buying child tickets
This is more typically done by newcomers to Japan to save on train fare, especially before they have landed their first job (employers here typically pay for commutation). It is technically illegal, but certainly non-Japanese can try to argue they couldn't tell the difference between that and an adult ticket. I personally have never done this, but I know people who have time and again.
3) Reading books in the convenience store without planning to buy them.
In the US, this is basically verboten, and you will get forced out if you continue to try and do it. In Japan, it's a national pastime with many people doing it daily while they wait for friends or just because they want to read that book or magazine without paying for it.
4) Using a toilet in a convenience store
In Japan, it's not unusual to use the public toilets or even a toilet that you need to get the key for in a convenience store . In the US, they often won't let you use it or may require you to buy something before letting you use it.
So anything pleasant that you can do now that you couldn't do before back home? |
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sistercream
Joined: 18 Dec 2010 Posts: 497 Location: Pearl River Delta
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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I like that here it is positively good manners both to slurp your noodles (or "Italy noodles" as spaghetti is called), and belch loudly after a good meal
I also appreciate not needing to check bus or train timetables before setting out as pubic transport here runs so frequently  |
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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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That's funny, it is also similar here for many types of Japanese noodles, but my parents didn't like when they visited! |
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Guy Courchesne

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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In many parts of Mexico and in many different places where you would think to form a line (a deli counter, a convenience store, etc) it's often perfectly acceptable to have to shout your way to service or jostle your way to the front. Not true for everywhere as you form lines at the supermarket and other places.
The great Canadian pasttime is to line up for everything, quite politely, making sure to apologize to anyone you might inconvenience by merely being in the line. |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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In another thread, a poster mentioned about going without health insurance, stating that the teacher would return back home and use the national health insurance in his native country (when and if required). From what was later stated, it sounded quasi-legal where the poster was working, but since I don't work there, I can't really judge, though it was stated that proof of health insurance was needed to get a work visa there, but I don't know if that is an ongoing requirement where the poster works or not (it is in Japan where I work, and a employee has to be enrolled in the national insurance or a acceptable equivalent). |
Not sure what the above has to do with the topic, because....I can say for sure that in my native country (US) it is certainly NOT illegal or uncommon to not have health insurance I believe that health insurance is mandatory across the EU, but outside of that, it's very likely a country-by-country issue. I know lots of TELF-ers who survived without health insurance for shorter or longer periods of time - sure, it's a risk, but one that is pretty commonly taken for a while at least.
I think your other items are better examples of questionable behaviour.
I'll add a nice summertime one: swimming clothes widely optional in public places. |
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artemisia

Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 875 Location: the world
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:30 am Post subject: |
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I was sometimes thunderstruck by the clothing, or rather the lack of, I saw on the main shopping streets in various German cities in the summer. Mind you, I noticed some Germans had similar reactions. When one guy of a mature age (read: old enough to know better) walked down the main street in nothing but a thong, there were a few dropped jaws amongst the shoppers along the way. Not strictly sure if being dressed in next to nothing, while out and about, is legal there. |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:19 am Post subject: |
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It depends what we mean by health insurance. Private health insurance is most certainly not mandatory in every country in the world, nor even in every country in the EU. This is because of a little thing variously called National Health or social insurance - i.e. you are automatically insured when you start any legal work, and part of your salary is deducted. People may opt to be covered by both national insurance and private, if they feel private cover gives better services, but there is no legal compulsion.
To suggest that not having private insurance is 'quasi-legal' simply means that there is not much understanding of how 'socialised medicine' works. |
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sheikh radlinrol
Joined: 30 Jan 2007 Posts: 1222 Location: Spain
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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I'll add a nice summertime one: swimming clothes widely optional in public places. |
This is ambiguous. Does it mean that you approve of clothing optional public beaches or do you approve of people who walk around in town in swimwear? I dislike the latter strongly.
Going back to the OPs point about drinking alcohol in the street I remember drinking a can of strong beer in London on Christmas Day because all the bars were closed. At the time it seemed normal! Now I frown on Eastern Europeans here in Spain who sit around drinking in public places. |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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I am ok with clothing-optional beaches. Haven't seen swimming clothes worn on the streets!! |
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Teacher in Rome
Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Posts: 1286
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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It depends what we mean by health insurance. Private health insurance is most certainly not mandatory in every country in the world, nor even in every country in the EU. This is because of a little thing variously called National Health or social insurance - i.e. you are automatically insured when you start any legal work, and part of your salary is deducted. People may opt to be covered by both national insurance and private, if they feel private cover gives better services, but there is no legal compulsion.
To suggest that not having private insurance is 'quasi-legal' simply means that there is not much understanding of how 'socialised medicine' works. |
Amen.
I'd go further and say that in these "socialised medicine" type countries, you'll get emergency care and attention no matter your nationality, and no matter the state of your bank balance. I call it "civilised nation status" and I'm happy to pay the cost of this through my taxes. Proud, in fact, that nobody's going to die through want of a blood transfusion, for example.
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I am ok with clothing-optional beaches. Haven't seen swimming clothes worn on the streets!! |
Living in Italy for 10+ years has made my a bit squeamish seeing semi-nudity anywhere else but the beach or swimming pool. Seeing men walk down a street with their shirt off looks really gross to me.
And seeing someone drink from a can of lager in public? Either football hooligan or tramp. (Don't forget - you can easily drink in public in bars in Italy - no need to wander around with a can in hand.) |
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gaijinalways
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