Site Search:
 
Get TEFL Certified & Start Your Adventure Today!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Things that would be questionable back home but..

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
gaijinalways



Joined: 29 Nov 2005
Posts: 2279

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:15 pm    Post subject: Things that would be questionable back home but.. Reply with quote

Sometimes when we speak with students, we might be surprised by some things that they assume are normal behavior in their countries.

In another thread, a poster mentioned about going without health insurance, stating that the teacher would return back home and use the national health insurance in his native country (when and if required). From what was later stated, it sounded quasi-legal where the poster was working, but since I don't work there, I can't really judge, though it was stated that proof of health insurance was needed to get a work visa there, but I don't know if that is an ongoing requirement where the poster works or not (it is in Japan where I work, and a employee has to be enrolled in the national insurance or a acceptable equivalent).

What was interesting was that the poster said he did it to save money...
so I thought the link to the thread below might be of interest.


http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=4201

In Japan, I enjoy doing some things that are definitely illegal in the US.

1) Drinking alcohol on the street

In the US, most public areas are covered by open container laws in most states. So technically, drinking beer in the open on your front law could be construed as a violation. In Japan, often parks post no drinking alcohol signs, but most people get around it by drinking out of concealed containers in places where they check. Walking to the station with a beer is a pleasure for me when I'm on vacation and meeting friends, or simply a usual activity for some people prior to going out (cheaper than the bar, even during happy hour).

2) Buying child tickets

This is more typically done by newcomers to Japan to save on train fare, especially before they have landed their first job (employers here typically pay for commutation). It is technically illegal, but certainly non-Japanese can try to argue they couldn't tell the difference between that and an adult ticket. I personally have never done this, but I know people who have time and again.

3) Reading books in the convenience store without planning to buy them.

In the US, this is basically verboten, and you will get forced out if you continue to try and do it. In Japan, it's a national pastime with many people doing it daily while they wait for friends or just because they want to read that book or magazine without paying for it.

4) Using a toilet in a convenience store

In Japan, it's not unusual to use the public toilets or even a toilet that you need to get the key for in a convenience store . In the US, they often won't let you use it or may require you to buy something before letting you use it.

So anything pleasant that you can do now that you couldn't do before back home?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sistercream



Joined: 18 Dec 2010
Posts: 497
Location: Pearl River Delta

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like that here it is positively good manners both to slurp your noodles (or "Italy noodles" as spaghetti is called), and belch loudly after a good meal Surprised

I also appreciate not needing to check bus or train timetables before setting out as pubic transport here runs so frequently Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
gaijinalways



Joined: 29 Nov 2005
Posts: 2279

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's funny, it is also similar here for many types of Japanese noodles, but my parents didn't like when they visited!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 9650
Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In many parts of Mexico and in many different places where you would think to form a line (a deli counter, a convenience store, etc) it's often perfectly acceptable to have to shout your way to service or jostle your way to the front. Not true for everywhere as you form lines at the supermarket and other places.

The great Canadian pasttime is to line up for everything, quite politely, making sure to apologize to anyone you might inconvenience by merely being in the line.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
spiral78



Joined: 05 Apr 2004
Posts: 11534
Location: On a Short Leash

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
In another thread, a poster mentioned about going without health insurance, stating that the teacher would return back home and use the national health insurance in his native country (when and if required). From what was later stated, it sounded quasi-legal where the poster was working, but since I don't work there, I can't really judge, though it was stated that proof of health insurance was needed to get a work visa there, but I don't know if that is an ongoing requirement where the poster works or not (it is in Japan where I work, and a employee has to be enrolled in the national insurance or a acceptable equivalent).


Not sure what the above has to do with the topic, because....I can say for sure that in my native country (US) it is certainly NOT illegal or uncommon to not have health insurance Shocked I believe that health insurance is mandatory across the EU, but outside of that, it's very likely a country-by-country issue. I know lots of TELF-ers who survived without health insurance for shorter or longer periods of time - sure, it's a risk, but one that is pretty commonly taken for a while at least.

I think your other items are better examples of questionable behaviour.

I'll add a nice summertime one: swimming clothes widely optional in public places.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
artemisia



Joined: 04 Nov 2008
Posts: 875
Location: the world

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was sometimes thunderstruck by the clothing, or rather the lack of, I saw on the main shopping streets in various German cities in the summer. Mind you, I noticed some Germans had similar reactions. When one guy of a mature age (read: old enough to know better) walked down the main street in nothing but a thong, there were a few dropped jaws amongst the shoppers along the way. Not strictly sure if being dressed in next to nothing, while out and about, is legal there.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Sashadroogie



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Posts: 11061
Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends what we mean by health insurance. Private health insurance is most certainly not mandatory in every country in the world, nor even in every country in the EU. This is because of a little thing variously called National Health or social insurance - i.e. you are automatically insured when you start any legal work, and part of your salary is deducted. People may opt to be covered by both national insurance and private, if they feel private cover gives better services, but there is no legal compulsion.

To suggest that not having private insurance is 'quasi-legal' simply means that there is not much understanding of how 'socialised medicine' works.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sheikh radlinrol



Joined: 30 Jan 2007
Posts: 1222
Location: Spain

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="spiral78"]
Quote:


I'll add a nice summertime one: swimming clothes widely optional in public places.

This is ambiguous. Does it mean that you approve of clothing optional public beaches or do you approve of people who walk around in town in swimwear? I dislike the latter strongly.
Going back to the OPs point about drinking alcohol in the street I remember drinking a can of strong beer in London on Christmas Day because all the bars were closed. At the time it seemed normal! Now I frown on Eastern Europeans here in Spain who sit around drinking in public places.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
spiral78



Joined: 05 Apr 2004
Posts: 11534
Location: On a Short Leash

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am ok with clothing-optional beaches. Haven't seen swimming clothes worn on the streets!!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Teacher in Rome



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Posts: 1286

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
It depends what we mean by health insurance. Private health insurance is most certainly not mandatory in every country in the world, nor even in every country in the EU. This is because of a little thing variously called National Health or social insurance - i.e. you are automatically insured when you start any legal work, and part of your salary is deducted. People may opt to be covered by both national insurance and private, if they feel private cover gives better services, but there is no legal compulsion.

To suggest that not having private insurance is 'quasi-legal' simply means that there is not much understanding of how 'socialised medicine' works.


Amen.

I'd go further and say that in these "socialised medicine" type countries, you'll get emergency care and attention no matter your nationality, and no matter the state of your bank balance. I call it "civilised nation status" and I'm happy to pay the cost of this through my taxes. Proud, in fact, that nobody's going to die through want of a blood transfusion, for example.

Quote:
I am ok with clothing-optional beaches. Haven't seen swimming clothes worn on the streets!!


Living in Italy for 10+ years has made my a bit squeamish seeing semi-nudity anywhere else but the beach or swimming pool. Seeing men walk down a street with their shirt off looks really gross to me.

And seeing someone drink from a can of lager in public? Either football hooligan or tramp. (Don't forget - you can easily drink in public in bars in Italy - no need to wander around with a can in hand.)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
gaijinalways



Joined: 29 Nov 2005
Posts: 2279

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie and spiral78, please refer to the thread below for discussion concerning matters of health insurance.

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=91755[/url]
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Teaching Jobs in China
Teaching Jobs in China