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housecat



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:48 am    Post subject: UAE University Teaching Reply with quote

A couple of years ago, there were almost always Uni jobs posted here at Dave's for UAE, but now that I'm ready be there, all I can find is SA.

I've read about the frustrations at most universities, HCT in particular, but what's with the big shift in demand? Or does it just seem like the way it seems?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's your timing. Most positions in the Gulf posted earlier this year through the spring.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, most universities hire through their websites now and rarely run ads except around the peak hiring time of Jan-Apr, which is when TESOL Arabia and TESOL in the US hit.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your replies. I thought it might be good to apply now, as I understand that this is a process that can take some time.

I did apply through one university website. I'll see if I can find some more good options.

Also, I first asked questions on this site a few years ago, about being a single mom and teaching in the ME. There was some question about needing a father's permission to travel with my child.

The embassy in DC assures me that, as I have full custody, I don't need anything else from the father. The person I spoke to there was also very, very friendly and encouraging.

I am very open to any other advice or whatever that anyone has to offer. I really hope this works out. Now that I'm ready to make this move, I am starting to look forward to learning new things in a new place.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

housecat wrote:
The embassy in DC assures me that, as I have full custody, I don't need anything else from the father. The person I spoke to there was also very, very friendly and encouraging.

Based on the experience of those who have done it, I'd give the advice that one can never trust the word of one employee at the embassy. Cool You will find with these Middle East embassies if you ask 5 employees, you will get 5 different answers... and none of them may be the correct answer.

The women that I know of... who all had complete legal custody... were required to have permission letters from the father. This has been true in all the GCC countries.

So, I wouldn't assume that this person is correct and be ready to provide the letter if required.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="veiledsentiments"][quote="housecat"]The embassy in DC assures me that, as I have full custody, I don't need anything else from the father. The person I spoke to there was also very, very friendly and encouraging.[/quote]
Based on the experience of those who have done it, I'd give the advice that one can never trust the word of one employee at the embassy. Cool You will find with these Middle East embassies if you ask 5 employees, you will get 5 different answers... and none of them may be the correct answer.

The women that I know of... who all had complete legal custody... were required to have permission letters from the father. This has been true in all the GCC countries.

So, I wouldn't assume that this person is correct and be ready to provide the letter if required.

VS[/quote]

Then the UAE has a lot in common with Taiwan. If it comes to that, I'm sunk. There has been no communication between us for years and I have no idea where he is or how to reach him.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

housecat wrote:
Then the UAE has a lot in common with Taiwan. If it comes to that, I'm sunk. There has been no communication between us for years and I have no idea where he is or how to reach him.

Another fact about the Gulf is that with the right employer, you or rather they might be able to work around it. I have heard rumor that there are people who have managed without the permission letter, but not from any of my most trusted sources. Cool It is all about 'wasta' (influence). So, I would apply and see what happens. Make sure that they know the situation from the beginning of the process and see what happens. Just don't cut all ties before you have got past this hurdle.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy at the embassy did say that there were things I needed to do with my custody papers. He told me to call him personally if I'm offered a job and he would tell me what to do.

I've applied for a couple of positions at two universities. We'll just have to wait and see.

Anyone care to give me a guesstimate for how long it should take them to get back? Both websites are clear that if they aren't interested, they aren't likely to bother contacting an applicant.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't expect to hear soon as it is unlikely that many of them are hiring right now. Were you applying for 2nd semester (January or February) or for next August/September?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There has to be some kind of permission letter. I don't know the details but it is possible to get a letter from your home country saying that the father is "uncontactable".

As far as I'm aware you come first and your family join later. This is the case with my employer. You get your residence, then apply for your child. My experience so far is that it seems to be a try it and see. Cases are dealt with on an individual basis and there are no promises. But the vibe I get is that the immigration authorities are pretty flexible and helpful. I had an issue with my wife joining me and it was quickly and efficiently resolved. One thing to be aware of is that you now have to pay a 5000 Dhs deposit (refundable on exit) for some dependants.

My advice would be not too worry to much about this. There will be a way around it. However you may be in the UAE and the document will need preparing in the US. So you need people to help you there. It might be an idea to set up a power of attorney.

I know other people who have overcome this difficulty. But not from the US. So I don't know the procedures there.

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The posts said the jobs are for August '12, but they may hire for Jan. '12 as well. So the answer is either, I suppose.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="desertdawg"]There has to be some kind of permission letter. I don't know the details but it is possible to get a letter from your home country saying that the father is "uncontactable".

As far as I'm aware you come first and your family join later. This is the case with my employer. You get your residence, then apply for your child. My experience so far is that it seems to be a try it and see. Cases are dealt with on an individual basis and there are no promises. But the vibe I get is that the immigration authorities are pretty flexible and helpful. I had an issue with my wife joining me and it was quickly and efficiently resolved. One thing to be aware of is that you now have to pay a 5000 Dhs deposit (refundable on exit) for some dependants.

My advice would be not too worry to much about this. There will be a way around it. However you may be in the UAE and the document will need preparing in the US. So you need people to help you there. It might be an idea to set up a power of attorney.

I know other people who have overcome this difficulty. But not from the US. So I don't know the procedures there.

Good luck![/quote]

I could not, and would not, travel without my son. We're it for each other; there isn't other family. But I don't worry about that aspect at all, as I've been assured again and again that if there is one real positive about the ME, it's that the place is very, very family oriented.

I am thinking positively and hoping for a workable solution.
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helenl



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At HCT ZU UAEU (I think) the family travels together usually. In Qatar it is the same at the 6 US Universities and the Canadian College.

I would think if any of the universities you applied to is a "branch" of a US or UK university the same would apply, but it should be verified first.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never heard of any university outside of Saudi Arabia where the family doesn't come all together with the employee. And I don't recall that this has ever been mentioned on any of the other boards other than Saudi.

Who is this desertdawg?

Perhaps there are different rules depending on your passport?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just somebody living and working in the UAE now and going through this procedure at the moment (regarding a permission letter from my children's birth father).

My apologies if my post was misleading. I try to keep my advice to matters where I have first hand knowledge (ie "my Company" & "other countries"). Of course I can only speak of my experience. Perhaps it would be wise for others to do the same

Again good luck to the OP.
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