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Provinces that never get mentioned
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Dilton



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:47 pm    Post subject: Provinces that never get mentioned Reply with quote

I've noticed that there are certain provinces you don't often see mentioned on the China ESL boards. I guess it's because they don't have larger cities or aren't economically developed. I'm interested in what it's like to work in these places. Has anyone spent time in the following? Please share your experiences!

Ningxia

Qinghai

Jiangxi

Taiwan

Gansu

Guizhou
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xjgirl



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

plenty of jobs in those places
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dean_a_jones



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Provinces that never get mentioned Reply with quote

Dilton wrote:
I've noticed that there are certain provinces you don't often see mentioned on the China ESL boards.

Taiwan



You will fit right in here.

In fact, Taiwan Province has its own board on Dave's:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewforum.php?f=12&sid=17cc34386b1ecedbb1f3944518cff741
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Songbird



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have worked in both Gansu & Jiangxi. Blah. I was in a village in my first year in Gansu which was a 8-12 hour bus ride to the nearest city (Xian). In Jiangxi I worked in Ganzhou, a supposed city with NOTHING western (not even McDonalds).

For 6 years I lived & worked in the countryside, slowly working my way up in experience etc. I am now FINALLY living in downtown Shenzhen, a world away from where I've been!!!
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Provinces that never get mentioned Reply with quote

dean_a_jones wrote:
Dilton wrote:
I've noticed that there are certain provinces you don't often see mentioned on the China ESL boards.

Taiwan



You will fit right in here.

In fact, Taiwan Province has its own board on Dave's:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewforum.php?f=12&sid=17cc34386b1ecedbb1f3944518cff741


Why do you call it "Taiwan Province"? No one calls Liaoning "Liaoning Province" or Beijing "Beijing City"?

Could you both please explain this reason to the new comers why you would use a title when normal westerners do not?

Just curious, not something you hear normal everyday foreign teachers say...and this might confuse new teachers.
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dean_a_jones



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Provinces that never get mentioned Reply with quote

The Great Wall of Whiner wrote:
dean_a_jones wrote:
Dilton wrote:
I've noticed that there are certain provinces you don't often see mentioned on the China ESL boards.

Taiwan



You will fit right in here.

In fact, Taiwan Province has its own board on Dave's:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewforum.php?f=12&sid=17cc34386b1ecedbb1f3944518cff741


Why do you call it "Taiwan Province"? No one calls Liaoning "Liaoning Province" or Beijing "Beijing City"?

Could you both please explain this reason to the new comers why you would use a title when normal westerners do not?

Just curious, not something you hear normal everyday foreign teachers say...and this might confuse new teachers.


I was making a funny. I think you know that.


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Dilton



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I specified "provinces" because I figured if I just said "you never hear about these 'places,'" newbies might not know what I was referring to. For example, they might not know if Ningxia is a city, province, county, region etc.
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W.V. Orman



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

East Turkestan
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Dilton



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can we please keep politics out of it and just discuss living/working in these provinces?
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wangdaning



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you wanted to keep politics out you wouldn't have mentioned Taiwan. Taiwan the country has its own forum, as mentioned. Taiwan province doesn't exist as a place for EFL teachers in China to comment on. Maybe that is why there are no comments.

For the others, I would hazard a guess that they are less traveled. I would also guess that posting on the internet is not that easy. Lack of internet service. Also, the personality of people who chose to go to remote areas to teach doesn't really fit with someone who posts on an internet forum.

To summarize, they probably are not interested in posting on internet forums and/or have limited internet access.

If you try google you might find some personal experiences.
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askiptochina



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Taiwan the country has its own forum


I would think warning newcomers of calling Taiwan a country to your Chinese students would be helpful, not for political reasons, but more so for working relations.

Regardless if I agree or disagree on a political level, I am in China, and I not going to present Taiwan as a country to my students.
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Lobster



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Telling your Chinese students that TW is an independnt country is a mistake you'll probably only make once. A a guest, you should know when to stay away from sensitive issues This doesn't just apply to China. You can get a lot of people riled up by stating the following:

N. Ireland is part of Britain (or not)
Israel is part of Palestine (or not)
Cyprus is part of Greece (or not)
Kashmir is part of India (or not)


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they don't have larger cities or aren't economically developed


Your inclusion of TW in this list is remarkably...

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7969



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

funnily enough i was discussing Taiwan with a friend of mine just yesterday. I explained that there are a small number of foreign governments and many people around the world who officially/unofficially regard Taiwan as an independent country. I tried to make clear that these weren't necessarily my feelings (because frankly speaking I don't really care) but those of some people outside of China.
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PandaPandemonium



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Songbird wrote:
I have worked in both Gansu & Jiangxi. Blah. I was in a village in my first year in Gansu which was a 8-12 hour bus ride to the nearest city (Xian). In Jiangxi I worked in Ganzhou, a supposed city with NOTHING western (not even McDonalds).

For 6 years I lived & worked in the countryside, slowly working my way up in experience etc. I am now FINALLY living in downtown Shenzhen, a world away from where I've been!!!
lol when did you work in jiangxi? now ganzhou has kfc (several) :lol:and is developing really quickly. but you are right, the lifestyle here is like in a village. I also hope I'll go to some big city in February
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Songbird



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Panda, I was there 3 years ago, boring place. The airport was my saviour!
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