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[SOD88888888]

The PSB in the province I am applying for wants a scan of a Foreign Expert Certificate. I've looked through my passport and all my previous documents, and I only have the visa and resident permit. Does anyone have an example of the Foreign Expert Certificate so I know what to look for? Thanks in advance.

[big_big_bang_theory_fan]

AMAZING

You are essentially saying you have no clue what a foreign expert certificate even is?!

How do you even have a job?

[xjgirl]

What's amazing about it?



The FEB are a pack of corrupt lazy p****s, the school might have applied for it, but have been left waiting for months, as is the case in my province.

[choudoufu]

be nice, people.

not that amazing. many times the school will apply for the
FEC, and then stuff it in a drawer when it arrives.

it's not that useful, after all. saves the school the trouble of
getting it back when the ft leaves in the middle of the night....

OP....ask your FAO. probably in his/her desk.

[Miles Smiles]

In my li'l outpost of progress, the FEC is a separate booklet that is about the size of my passport.

It is supplied by the PSB, though you might not necessarily have been taken down to the PSB when your paperwork and PHOTO was submitted to that agency.

"The bearer is entitled to conveniences and treatments for foreign experts provided by the government of the People's Republic of China."

You may never know what those "conveniences" are, but you will undoubtedly learn what some of those "treatments" are.

I assume that you are changing jobs.

[Baozi man]

The Foreign Experts Certificate is supplied by the Foreign Experts Bureau, not the PSB. It is required to get a residence permit.

Other documents routinely required may include:

1. School certification to hire FTs.

2. Letter from the school attesting to your good character. They also assume responsibility for the FTs behavior, which may explain why some schools require a criminal background check

3. Health clearance

This may vary from province to province. Your school should know that you must have an FEC in order to get an RP. An illegal school can not provide documentation allowing them to hire an FT. If your school is illegally employing you, you will not be able to get an FEC or an RP or even a Z visa.

One good reason FTs should demand a Z visa before coming to China is to weed out shady operators who will not be able to provide documents to get you an FEC or RP once you arrive. They wil ask you to teach on a visitor or business visa because they can not legally hire you.

There were four different documents the school had to provide to the PSB to prove they could hire a foreigner. It required a visit 10 different government offices to get all the documents, according to the person who secured the necessary documents.

Guidelines are in place to protect FTs from gangster/swindler types. Schools must demonstrate their legitimacy before they are legally allowed to hire FTs

[Miles Smiles]

[wangdaning]

The 国家外国专家局FEB issues the booklet. It has been mentioned many times on here that the non-Chinese might never see it. You need to talk to the last employer and get them to coff it up. If they don't have it get in contact with the FEB in that province. These are provincial departments. Cities cannot do anything.

[Baozi man]

Obviously, there are different opinions regarding the FEC. Since the PSB is asking for a photocopy of the FEC, it appears that in the OP's locale, like mine, the FEC is provided by an office separate from the PSB

It's quite amazing, Smiles, that your FEC comes from the PSB, if that is the case. I know that is not the case here. I've been to the FEB here, as well as the PSB office. They are distinct entities.

Based on my own experience in this locale, I would have to say that something is taking place of which you are unaware. It only appears that your FEC is coming from the PSB. Of course, I certainly could be wrong.
One possibility is that the FEB has an office in the PSB building.

As for the OP, as suggested by another, the FEC could be in someone's desk somewhere. Or, less benign, he/she may not have one, in which case, in this province, the resident permit would probably not be processed.

I doubt this is the case, since the OP mentioned an existing visa and residence permit

I'll be interested in learning how this one turns out.

[Miles Smiles]