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lyonhead



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:52 am    Post subject: Newbie Questions Reply with quote

Hey guys. After 5 years teaching in Korea, I've decided to make the jump to Japan. Korea has just drained me. I need a change, and I've always been in love with Japanese culture (and women) so I thought, why not?

However, it's still months and months away, so I'm just starting to plan and could really use your help. I have some questions now, but I also plan to update this post every so often when I have some more.

Thanks!

1. How well does it work out to just come over and look for work there? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me to go back across the Pacific to the states to look for a job, just to fly back again. The flight from Seoul to Tokyo is like 2 hours and there's no evil jet lag to deal with. Don't even have to reset my watch! So, I know Spring is the ideal time to find a job, but that's just not going to work for me. My job in Korea ends in July, so it's either quit early (I'm just not that kind of person) or hang out for another 6-8 months (not going to happen.) Do you think August is an okay time for job hunting?

2. How much should I budget while job hunting? In Tokyo, given what I've researched in terms of temporary housing costs, transportation, food, misc., I'm thinking about $2,000 a month and that's on a budget. I could afford to spend up to 2 months on that, with some reserve cash, before I lose more money than it's worth (and then have to take a rush flight back to Korea and grab the first hagwon contract thrown at me.)

3. Unlike Korea, Japanese schools don't provide housing. Which is a sacrifice I'm willing to accept (although tearing me away from this posh officetel I'm in now my prove more difficult than I think, lol.) Finding a place on my own doesn't seem too much of an issue. However, given I've lived in Korea all these years, I don't actually have any real furniture. Are there furnished apartments that are affordable? How expensive is furniture there? I don't have super high standards, but I do prefer to have a nice and clean place to come home to. A mattress on the floor and a tv in the corner just isn't going to cut it. Am I going to have to drop have my salary to have a nice place to live?

4. Living expenses - I've made a few visa runs to Osaka in my time here in Korea. Every time though, I'm shocked at the price of food. Maybe it's because I don't know the cheaper places to eat or that if what is considered inexpensive in Korea is the reverse in Japan, but one thing I can't make the points connect in my mind is what I've experienced in terms of how expensive I've seen life can be in Japan vs how I've heard other foreigners live rather frugally there. I've read people living quite comfortably and still managing to save a thousand US dollars a month or more! Can someone help connect the dots on that one for me?

5. Will my experience count? In 5 years I've taught every age from preschool to university. I've taught every English level from ABC to TOEFL essay writing. I have built entire curriculums here. But I do realize a Japanese school may look at me and say "you don't have experience in Japan, therefor you don't have any experience." While I don't see it that way, I'm not going to let that get me upset. It's not my country, not my culture, I understand things are done differently. I just want to enjoy my year or two in Japan and not get too caught up in manufactured drama. But do you think I'd have some leverage to ask for a little more than 250,000?

6. Dating - Okay okay, I know this isn't exactly job related, but come on, throw me a bone. Every time I've been to Japan, I've noticed I get a lot more attention from Japanese girls than I do Korean girls. Maybe it's the xenophobic culture in Korea (some Koreans girls are even made to feel ashamed if they're seen with white guys) or that my appearance is just more attractive to Japanese girls (I'm rather athletic and muscular, Korean girls tend to go for very feminine boy-ish kind of guys.) But there is an old cliche that Jgirls are notorious gold diggers. Only interested in money. And seeing as how your average English teacher doesn't have the kind of money to attract that level of interest, do a lot of you guys stay single most of the time? Am I going to have options when it comes time to find someone?
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Glenski



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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie Questions Reply with quote

lyonhead wrote:
Hey guys. After 5 years teaching in Korea, I've decided to make the jump to Japan. Korea has just drained me. I need a change, and I've always been in love with Japanese culture (and women) so I thought, why not?
Mentioning women n your first paragraph is not a stellar point to make, IMO. You might want to keep that low key.

1. How well does it work out to just come over and look for work there?

Well, you first should realize that things have changed in the past 3-5 years or so, since the collapse of GEOS and NOVA and the rise of the ALT dispatch agencies.

Also, what is your timing? Feb/March is peak season for eikaiwas and many other teaching jobs, but you should still plan on at least a month before you even get hired. Visas take 2-8 weeks. Things in Japan are very crowded/competitive right now. If you're coming here to sniff around, research in advance and let prospective employers know you are coming.

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So, I know Spring is the ideal time to find a job, but that's just not going to work for me. My job in Korea ends in July, so it's either quit early (I'm just not that kind of person) or hang out for another 6-8 months (not going to happen.) Do you think August is an okay time for job hunting?
Ah, August. No, it's pretty poor timing, IMO. Summer break for many places (public schools who might hire for Oct start dates), and a week or less of Obon national holiday when most places are shut down.

2. How much should I budget while job hunting?
Figure you'll have to support yourself for 2-3 months. Figure US$4000-5000 will be needed before your first paycheck is in the bank.

3. Unlike Korea, Japanese schools don't provide housing.

They don't "provide" as in pay the rent for them, but Japanese employers often/usually have a furnished place ready with secondhand furnishings and key money paid up. If you don't want that, then be prepared to pay through the nose most of the time for getting a place of your own.


Are there furnished apartments that are affordable?
What is "affordable" to you?
Average places will run 50,000-80,000 yen/month, but they are largely unfurnished. LeoPalace21 is the only furnished apartment chain I know. Perhaps others know more. Last I recall, you also had to pay LeoPalace all rent up front, not just the first month. Don't know if it's still the same.

How expensive is furniture there?
Secondhand shops abound. But if you get an unfurnished place, you will usually have to buy all appliances, too, as well as curtains, bedding, utensils, light fixtures, etc. Those 100-yen shops only go so far.

Am I going to have to drop have my salary to have a nice place to live?
What exactly do you define as "nice"? (have = half?)

4. Living expenses - I've read people living quite comfortably and still managing to save a thousand US dollars a month or more! Can someone help connect the dots on that one for me?
Figure on a salary of 250,000 yen/month, basic necessities will run you about half that, based on average figures and locations. How you spend/save/splurge the rest depends entirely on you. Look at my old thread on "cheapskates" to see how some people scrounge.

5. Will my experience count? In 5 years I've taught every age from preschool to university. I've taught every English level from ABC to TOEFL essay writing.
If it's all in Korea, then be prepared for some employers (can't give you a percentage) who will not count any of it.

But do you think I'd have some leverage to ask for a little more than 250,000?
Personally, no, not in most cases. Some places exist that will offer that salary or less or more. I don't see as there is usually any allowance to negotiate.

6. Dating - Okay okay, I know this isn't exactly job related, but come on, throw me a bone.
Sorry, I refuse to go there, other than to say your "athletic and muscular" appearance means little to many J women. Foreign is all some will consider. Do a search for the term "Charisma Man" to learn more.
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Pitarou



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:18 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie Questions Reply with quote

lyonhead wrote:
I've noticed I get a lot more attention from Japanese girls....

It's true. In some circles, having a white guy on your arm is still seen as pretty cool. Just don't let it go to your head and turn into a jerk, 'kay?
lyonhead wrote:
But there is an old cliche that Jgirls are notorious gold diggers.

Never heard that one myself. I thought it was the Chinese?

Anyway, Glesnki's advice is all good.
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lyonhead



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski, as always, is straight forward. Thanks a lot man. You really know your stuff.

So you said, perhaps giving a heads up to a few places before going over to let them know I'll be in town. Exactly, who should I let know? ECC? Aeon? Are there any other big chains?

Since getting a visa takes so long, do you think there might be a chance I could find a school and get the ball rolling on that while I'm still in Korea?

I've got 7 months before my contract in Korea ends and since it's such poor timing, I may extend a month or two. Plus I wanted to take at least a few weeks, maybe a month off to chill on a beach before I went to Japan. So I have anywhere from 7-9 months before it's possible to start working. It just seems like a waste of time to just start looking when I get there.

It might be too much to hope for, but it'd be ideal to have a job, visa, and place to stay all lined up before I even got to Japan. If a school really wanted, I could probably even hop over one weekend if they wanted an in person interview.

I tried to move over a few years ago, but it didn't work out. I really want to make it happen this time. That's why I'm putting in the work now.
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Sour Grape



Joined: 10 May 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:55 am    Post subject: Re: Newbie Questions Reply with quote

Pitarou wrote:
lyonhead wrote:
I've noticed I get a lot more attention from Japanese girls....

It's true. In some circles, having a white guy on your arm is still seen as pretty cool. Just don't let it go to your head and turn into a jerk, 'kay?
lyonhead wrote:
But there is an old cliche that Jgirls are notorious gold diggers.

Never heard that one myself. I thought it was the Chinese?

Anyway, Glesnki's advice is all good.


I have heard that about Japanese women, and while it is a generalisation, I think there is some truth to it. It's just that they perhaps don't anticipate too much gold to be dug out of yor average EFL teacher.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lyonhead wrote:
So you said, perhaps giving a heads up to a few places before going over to let them know I'll be in town.
Well, to save on some lost time, look up ads from potential employers before you come and let them know when you are going to be in Japan and therefore available for an interview.

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Exactly, who should I let know? ECC? Aeon?
Everyone that looks interesting to you.

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Are there any other big chains?
G.com bought out NOVA and GEOS after their bankruptcies, so they are largely still around with the same banners, although under different management.

EC is a fairly big chain.
Likewise Peppy Kids Club and James English House, although I think they are localized.

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Since getting a visa takes so long, do you think there might be a chance I could find a school and get the ball rolling on that while I'm still in Korea?
Yes, but don't ask me to quote you odds on how many or what chance you might have. Not all that many recruit there.

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If a school really wanted, I could probably even hop over one weekend if they wanted an in person interview.
"If they wanted"...? Listen, darned few are going to be looking in your geographic direction for candidates, and equally few will do an interview by Skype, so what you are left with is the rest that will do interviews in English speaking countries (about a dozen or so companies) and only within Japan.
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