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lovetoteach
Joined: 12 Oct 2011 Posts: 17
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:53 pm Post subject: MIDWESTED.US>recruitment website,has anyone dealt with th |
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Hi,
I recently discovered midwested.us which is a recruiter for many different countries. I have found my dealings with them quite confusing.
The employees'(2 of which have contacted me) email addresses are their personal ones with gmail as opposed to that of midwested which is unlike any other online recruiter i've dealt with.
Also, a male employee was very unprofessional in that he was trying to start casual conversation through gmail chat, which had nothing to do with jobs, and inapproprialtely commenting on my looks as he had received my CV photo.
Having said all that, they seem to be sending me valid information about their "partners'" job offers.
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:55 am Post subject: |
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I've just had a glance at their website and it seems a bit strange in a couple of respects. This is just from a quick look-over, so if anyone wants to take the time to dissect the website in more detail, that would be useful.
Firstly, their TESOL instructor seems to have very minimal ESL/EFL qualifications - her degrees are all apparently in something unrelated. MA TESL/TEFL and/or DELTA holders are pretty commonly employed as teacher trainers these days - it seems a bit odd to advertise someone with unrelated degrees as a professional trainer. Both the academic director and CEO seem to have related qualifications, however.
Secondly, the website lists a wide variety of European countries but does not make it clear that only UK passport holders will be legally able to take up TEFL teaching positions in most of Western Europe - they seem to imply that all candidates for their training programme will be eligible to work in the countries they list.
I'd say that so long as they are sending you job offers for countries in which you could find a job legally on your own, that's probably above board. If they are trying to lead you in the direction of places where you could not legally find a job on your own, given your nationality and qualifications, RED FLAG.
So, the salient questions are probably: where are you from, and where do you want to go? I am guessing you are from the US, as one of your posts requests a salary equivalent to 1500 USD, and I guess you are interested in Europe among other destinations as you posted a query about CERAN, which I have answered. If this is correct, you will want to educate yourself on the significant limitations for non-EU member citizens in Europe - you'd be essentially limited to Central/Eastern Europe legally. Asia is a different story!! |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:06 am Post subject: |
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The way they write on that site, I wouldn't touch them as a student or prospective teacher.
Mixing pronouns (they and you in one sentence, to refer to the same person), using poor grammar sometimes (despite the PhDs on staff), the odd use of capitalization for certain words (unnecessary), run-on words, need I go on?
The CEO got her degree at Argosy U, which Wikipedia shows with a checkered past.
The Academic Director is listed as having a doctorate but they won't say from which uni. I wonder why?
The TESOL Instructor got her master's degree from a distance learning institution.
Hmmm. |
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lovetoteach
Joined: 12 Oct 2011 Posts: 17
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm from Ireland and want to go to Oman, UAE, South Korea or Taiwan. Well anywhere that pays well really. I'm at my wits end at this stage. I want to go asap. I have two years pot CELTA experience and a degree. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| lovetoteach wrote: |
| I'm from Ireland and want to go to Oman, UAE, South Korea or Taiwan. Well anywhere that pays well really. |
Everyone wants to go where they can be paid well.
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| I'm at my wits end at this stage. I want to go asap. I have two years pot CELTA experience and a degree. |
Wat is the big rush? Please realize that visa processing alone will take time, so add to that the time needed for job hunting, interviewing, and getting your home affairs in order and you have a block of time ahead of you. It may be even longer depending on when you choose to apply vs. when jobs are available or when they start. It would not be wise to rush into things. |
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tttompatz

Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 1951 Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| lovetoteach wrote: |
| I'm from Ireland and want to go to Oman, UAE, South Korea or Taiwan. Well anywhere that pays well really. I'm at my wits end at this stage. I want to go asap. I have two years pot CELTA experience and a degree. |
Want to go ASAP then do you actually have all of your documentation in order?
Police check, degree copy, degree original, sealed transcript, passport, CELTA cert, letters of reference/certificates of employment to verify your classroom experience?
Be aware that in some countries on your list these documents need to be legalized (notarization, consular certification or a apostille) and that process takes time.
Although language academies/schools hire year round they still have peaks and ebbs and K-12 schools definitely have short window hiring cycles that are country specific.
Until YOU are ready the vast majority of people doing recruitment (recruiters, headhunters or just HR staff of schools) won't even give you a 2nd look as anything more than a tire kicker looking at used cars on a lot.
For jobs in Korea, look at the Korean forums here.
jobs: http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/
forum: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/
For the middle east or Taiwan look here:
http://www.eslcafe.com/joblist/
For jobs in east Asia, you will need to use a recruiter/head hunter or simply bite the bullet, get a tourist visa and get on a plane then settle your employment after you land (country specific).
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sofaspud
Joined: 28 Oct 2011 Posts: 7 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:02 am Post subject: |
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Ttompatz is right. Putting together the documents take a while.
Even though I'm receiving offers from KSA that I've accepted, Korea is my back up and so I've had all my documents set just in case I need to send them off. It depends where you are from and what you need to send off. I needed to get my documents notarized, then signed and stamped from a solicitor and then apostilled, along with other documents. Best to have them all sorted before hand!
Yes I had been in correspondence with them a while ago. The lady I spoke with seemed quite helpful, although I didn't take up their offer. However, she did sort of erm tell me to re arrange my work experience a bit more (blag). They wanted me to do an 'online webcam interview'. Before I had a chance to do it I got an offer from somewhere else. I remember when I had to make a CV/Resume video of myself on youtube for a job in Dubai, two minutes long and it took me the whole day to rehearse, ahem.
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