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Americanartistist
Joined: 15 Oct 2011 Posts: 31
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:25 am Post subject: I'm having work featured in an Adult English Grammar |
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Sorry I tried to share some good news, I've learned my lesson.
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Ura! |
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jonniboy
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 751 Location: Panama City, Panama
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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"A road militia officer stopped this motorist who's car ..."
Um. It's a grammar book you say? |
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Americanartistist
Joined: 15 Oct 2011 Posts: 31
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:44 am Post subject: Geez, |
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forget it
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Dedicated
Joined: 18 May 2007 Posts: 972 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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I think I have to concur with jonniboy.
In grammar books we abbreviate : who is
who was
who has
but these are parts of verb tenses : who's playing tennis
who's been playing tennis.
She is a teacher who has 3 children - cannot be abbreviated as
"she's a teacher who's 3 children". |
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spiral78

Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Ditto Dedicated and jonniboy on this one. |
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jonniboy
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 751 Location: Panama City, Panama
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: Geez, |
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Americanartistist wrote: |
You think it should be A road militia officer stopped this motorist whose car is so dirty? Sorry, but if you do not know what who's means then it is your problem, not mine or Oxford's. |
I don't think that, I know that. Oxford don't have a problem with it either: "These two are sometimes confused. Who's is the short form of who is. Whose is the possessive form of who."
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/whose
Americanartistist wrote: |
There are more than one meaning for who's than just who is. Mark Twain was right, thank you for your wise input jonniboy, your true feelings show very well. |
I do feel that English teachers should know the difference between "who's" and "whose" and "there is" and "there are", yes. I sincerely hope you are not passing on such basic mistakes to your students. |
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Russiatobe
Joined: 19 Aug 2011 Posts: 14
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:46 pm Post subject: don't mean to rain on your parade |
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but maybe there is time correct the book  |
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Americanartistist
Joined: 15 Oct 2011 Posts: 31
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:10 pm Post subject: Some of you seem to not understand |
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A simple fact is that sometimes using proper grammar just does not work, especially when you are looking to create a certain aspect. Just like the fist person to bring this up, he seemed to think that the book was going to use the caption, it is not only the photo and nothing more. I used who's for a reason, yes I know whose is proper grammar, but in this case, I had a reason for using who's. But I give up, some of you so-called grammar experts may know all of the rules, all 500,000 English grammar rules well enough, but you know nothing about creative writing or captions. I have been teaching grammar for 20 plus years, have a degree in journalism and have more than proven myself in writing and teaching. It has been nice here, but I'm out of here. So it really does not matter what snide remarks you want to make about me because I have proven myself where it is important. You so-called grammar experts would be laughed out of the classroom if some of the world's most famous authors where in your class. Nobody said anything about teaching grammar errors, I only said that sometimes it is better to break a grammar rule. Surely you experts have noticed how using perfect grammar sounds like it was something written from Mars? To heck with you people. So I guess my help is not needed or wanted here. Good bye and do not bother sending me any private messages, I will not answer them. |
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coledavis
Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Posts: 1838
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Well, good writers can break grammatical rules, but there has to be a reason. What is the reason in this context? |
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Peg Leg Pete
Joined: 12 Feb 2010 Posts: 80 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:53 am Post subject: Re: Some of you seem to not understand |
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Americanartistist wrote: |
. I used who's for a reason, yes I know whose is proper grammar, but in this case, I had a reason for using who's. What is the reason?
You so-called grammar experts would be laughed out of the classroom if some of the world's most famous authors where in your class. To heck with you people. So I guess my help is not needed or wanted here. Good bye and do not bother sending me any private messages, I will not answer them. |
Do you mean "if some of the world's most famous authors were in your class"? Yes, I think they might well be laughing.
Please don't go. I'd like you to explain your point, and try to relax a little. I'm sure none of this is personal. |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:23 am Post subject: |
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Aw! I liked that picture and now the link's gone. |
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jxyz
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 16 Location: Riyadh
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Americanartist wrote: |
A simple fact is that sometimes using proper grammar just does not work, especially when you are looking to create a certain aspect |
This is meaningless, especially in the context of a grammar book.
AmericanArtist wrote: |
I had a reason for using who's. |
What is the reason? I'm interested.
AmericanArtist wrote: |
But I give up, some of you so-called grammar experts may know all of the rules, all 500,000 English grammar rules well enough, but you know nothing about creative writing or captions. |
Most EFL teachers (and learners above a certain rather basic level) know the difference between the contraction of 'who is' and a possessive pronoun. |
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Sashadroogie

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Posts: 11061 Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:04 am Post subject: |
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Sadly, the OP has left us, and deleted the link. Was an interesting photo too : ( |
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