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lundegatan



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 4:57 am    Post subject: Tax Rate Reply with quote

I am trying to figure out what the tax rate is on a monthly salary of 35,000 HKD. I found various information online � but can�t figure out what the exact percentage would be.

Any ideas?
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Perilla



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

15%
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lundegatan



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:07 am    Post subject: thanks Reply with quote

Thanks for the update - everything is finally clear!
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Perilla



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sushikurva wrote:
For 2011-2012, plug the yearly salary minus deductions into here:

http://www.ird.gov.hk/eng/ese/st_comp_2011_12_b/stcfrm.htm

Things to consider:

tax rebates-- for the last couple of years there has been a 6000 hkd tax rebate, which means that you would have your tax reduced by 6000hkd at that salary (Yay!) It appears that in 2011-2012 there was no such rebate though.

What time of year/how long you work in HK can make a big difference-- the tax year runs from April 1 to March 31, and includes income you made in that period only. So, if you are on a 1 year contract and half the contract is in one tax year and half in the the next tax year, this will seriously reduce the amount of tax you pay. If you stay in HK long term, it will even out, but for a year or two it can make a big difference.

As an example, at my salary, I should have paid about 35-40k hkd per year in tax, but as my two year contract spanned three different tax years, two of which had tax rebates, I ended up paying only 32000hkd total for the two years i was there-- with a total income of about 820,000 hkd over the two year period, that's just under 4%-- not bad. Had my contract started and ended exactly with the tax year, I would have paid more than double that


Sounds like you got lucky. If you'd stayed another year you'd have faced a big chunk of tax I suspect. Whenever my demand is down one year they always seem to hit me with a big one the following year. Surprised they didn't sting you for back tax you owed on the way out.

15% is the standard rate of salaries tax, as quoted in government bumpf. But yes, they apply a progressive rate as you outline.

My salary in recent years has been around 500-550K and I usually face a tax demand between 60 and 80,000. The rebates obviously help, but seem to get swallowed up.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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HK_GURU



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys didn't mention Provisional tax. This is the killer. My salary is similar to Perilla and obviously I pay around the same level of tax. However, for myself and others I know in the second year in HK you will be asked to pay a year of provisional tax. For example in my second year I paid around 100,000hkd in tax. About half for the current year and the rest covers the following year. It was a painful experience and one that all Hong Kong based expatriates should be prepared for.

Also each year that your salary is higher there will be more provisional tax to be paid for the following year.

In theory you should be a year ahead and I imagine the year you leave it would seem logical that you would pay almost no tax but I don't trust the system.
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Smoog



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's any help you can work out exactly how much you owe using the HK IRD tax computation page:
http://www.gov.hk/en/residents/taxes/etax/services/tax_computation.htm

As a rule of thumb I've found I pay around the equivalent of 5 weeks salary (around 11% of my total annual salary). For the op, you should expect a tax bill of around $42k assuming you've been on $35k /month the entire tax year.

Tax is payable in two installments: end of January (80% of total owed iirc) and end of April (the remainder).

The tax people are incredibly helpful in HK, so don't be worried about popping in to see them. They can help you set up what's called tax reserve certificate account, which direct debits a set amount each month to the IRD. It can help take the sting out of the first tax demand.
The most amazing thing about this account is that the IRD will pay you interest on it! True, as it's the going bank deposit rate it's pitiful but still: the very idea that a tax dept will pay you interest on money you owe them is just bizarre.
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GreatApe



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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some good information here. Thanks everyone!

--GA
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ozman



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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes the provisional tax is a KILLER, especially when it's your first tax return.

while the standard rate of tax is 15% as outlined above, for those thinking of coming to HK, we don't have PAYE tax (pay as you earn) - you don't get taxed each month on your salary - you get the GROSS amount paid in your hand. The tax man will send you a bill - you pay a lump sum - or opt to choose to pay in TWO lump sums. This is why the tax bill can be a killer when it all comes at once. The secret is to put AWAY 10%-15% of your salary each month so you'll have enough funds.
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sistercream



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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't want to have a nasty shock when your first tax bill arrives, you can purchase Tax Certificates through your bank. These accrue interest (not much, but every bit helps!).

You tell them how much you want to purchase each month, set up the direct debit, and when you receive your tax assessment you give that to your bank, who then packs the $$ off to the Revenue Dep't. If you have a surplus, you can either roll it over for the coming year, or withdraw it as cash (in which case you forfeit any accumulated interest).
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RiverMystic



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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, when I first came to HK I used to get relatively low tax bills, never more than 60 000, and often 20-something thousand. Then in the 6th and 7th years I was hit with two consecutive bills of way over 100 000. I still haven't worked out the reasons for the sudden massive increase.
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