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Rooster_2006
Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 984
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:09 pm Post subject: Gunning for a Three-Year Extension This Time, Have Questions |
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So my boss has told me that she wants to re-contract with me (good news).
I would really like to maximize my chances of getting a three-year extension of stay this time instead of the one-year extension. However, there's one problem. Apparently, the previous teacher got two one-year extensions because, in his words, "[my boss] only applies for one-year visas (sic)."
How do I convince her to apply for a three-year extension of stay?
Can I apply for the extension myself? Would that help or hurt my case?
Is there any documentation I can provide that might increase my chances of getting a three-year extension? I have:
- Passed the JLPT N4
- Passed the Kanji Kentei Level 7 (I have been studying hard and will likely pass Level 5 in January)
Since I've heard that longer periods of stay are granted taking language skills into account, I am wondering if I should enclose these certificates. I know they're low-level, but it's still better than no Japanese at all.
Thanks. |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 1546 Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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The application form has two boxes: one year or 3 years. And surely you will be asked to fill it in since it requires education info and the like not to mention a signature from you. Just tick the 3 year box when you fill out the form. After that it's entirely up to your immigration officer whether they will give you the extention you want; your employer doesn't have the power to you a 3 year extention should they choose.
I gave in every piece of paperwork that was required (which included employer documents and employment contract) for my first renewal and only got a one year extention. This year, the officer I dealt with only took my app (he even turned away the certs proving payment of income tax, NHI and residence tax and didn't even glance at anything from the employer which showed that they intended to renew my contract) and guess what?
I think that the fact that they didn't take my employment contract which showed that I was only being offered a (less than) one year re-contract actually helped my case; as far as the officer was concerned, I had almost finished my 2nd year at my school and was planning to remain there so they obviously liked me enough to keep me on.
I think your language ability is only taken into account for PR apps. I certainly wasn't given the option to show any language ability. |
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Rooster_2006
Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 984
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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First of all, thanks for your reply.
seklarwia wrote: |
The application form has two boxes: one year or 3 years. And surely you will be asked to fill it in since it requires education info and the like not to mention a signature from you. Just tick the 3 year box when you fill out the form. After that it's entirely up to your immigration officer whether they will give you the extention you want; your employer doesn't have the power to you a 3 year extention should they choose. |
Oh yeah, I know my employer cannot guarantee that I get a three-year extension just by checking the three-year box. But if she checks the one-year box (or makes me check the one-year box), will that hurt my chances of getting a three-year extension?
I'm kind of picturing the following scenario:
----- In the Back Room of the Immigration Office-----
Immigration Officer Ono: Let's give him a three-year extension. His JLPT and KanKen are decent for a guy who has only been in Japan for less than a year.
Immigration Officer Tanimoto: Okay, sounds like a good idea.
Immigration Officer Yada: Oh, wait a second! Here on the application form, it only says he is seeking "One year" for his extension!
Immigration Officer Tanimoto: Ah, I see. Let's just give him the one-year extension, then.
Immigration Officer Ono: Yeah, no point in giving one of our limited quantity of three-year extensions to a guy who didn't even ask for it.
-----At the Immigration Counter-----
Immigration Officer Ono: Here you go, sir. Your one-year extension. Have a nice day! |
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Inflames
Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 486
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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Rooster_2006 wrote: |
First of all, thanks for your reply.
seklarwia wrote: |
The application form has two boxes: one year or 3 years. And surely you will be asked to fill it in since it requires education info and the like not to mention a signature from you. Just tick the 3 year box when you fill out the form. After that it's entirely up to your immigration officer whether they will give you the extention you want; your employer doesn't have the power to you a 3 year extention should they choose. |
Oh yeah, I know my employer cannot guarantee that I get a three-year extension just by checking the three-year box. But if she checks the one-year box (or makes me check the one-year box), will that hurt my chances of getting a three-year extension?
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There are two forms to be filled out (they're given out together). You fill out the page that says how long you want. Your boss should not fill it out. You then sign it. If your boss makes you fill it out as one year, just either cross it out and say 3 years or go and print out the same page but fill it out for 3 years.
I remember reading something about immigration before - their caseload is quite high so they get about 10 minutes per application, on average. I'd guess they simply just check and if someone works for a major company (some place they've heard of or seen applications from before) they give the application a rubber stamp approval and move on to the next one. |
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Rooster_2006
Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 984
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Inflames wrote: |
Rooster_2006 wrote: |
First of all, thanks for your reply.
seklarwia wrote: |
The application form has two boxes: one year or 3 years. And surely you will be asked to fill it in since it requires education info and the like not to mention a signature from you. Just tick the 3 year box when you fill out the form. After that it's entirely up to your immigration officer whether they will give you the extention you want; your employer doesn't have the power to you a 3 year extention should they choose. |
Oh yeah, I know my employer cannot guarantee that I get a three-year extension just by checking the three-year box. But if she checks the one-year box (or makes me check the one-year box), will that hurt my chances of getting a three-year extension?
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There are two forms to be filled out (they're given out together). You fill out the page that says how long you want. Your boss should not fill it out. You then sign it. If your boss makes you fill it out as one year, just either cross it out and say 3 years or go and print out the same page but fill it out for 3 years.
I remember reading something about immigration before - their caseload is quite high so they get about 10 minutes per application, on average. I'd guess they simply just check and if someone works for a major company (some place they've heard of or seen applications from before) they give the application a rubber stamp approval and move on to the next one. |
Thanks for your reply.
My school is extremely small (only my boss and I) so I'm guessing that isn't going to help my chances of getting a three-year extension.
I'll do my best to make sure the three-year box is checked, though. Can't hurt to try. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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At one time I tried every combination and permutation of factors I could think of to determine why some people got 1- vs 3-year extensions. In the end, it didn't make any difference.
So, just tick the box yourself and hope for the best. Immigration works in mysterious ways. As long as your company is legitimate (as proven by the documents they have to provide to immigration), it shouldn't matter if it's big or small. |
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PO1
Joined: 24 May 2010 Posts: 136
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with Glenski. I don't think it really matters what you put on your application. You could speak fluent Japanese and have a Doctorate and they'd probably sometimes give a one year extension. I really think it depends on what immigration office you go to. I have a friend who got a three year extension, yet I got a one year extension for a spousal visa. So it's really just a lottery or depends on the whim of immigration that day. |
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rtm
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 1003 Location: US
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:43 am Post subject: |
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Rooster_2006 wrote: |
But if she checks the one-year box (or makes me check the one-year box), will that hurt my chances of getting a three-year extension? |
Well, if you only ask for a 1-year visa, I can almost guarantee that you will get........ a 1-year visa.
If you want to ask for a 3-year visa, check that box.
I've never heard of Japanese language ability being a factor in how they grant visas for eikaiwa/ALT jobs.
My experience: 1st visa was 3 years (JET). Then, with a private organization, I had an 8-month contract, and was given a 1-year visa. At the end of that, still with the same organization and on a new 1-year contract, I got a 3-year visa. Then, that visa ran out 2 weeks before my last contract ended (still with the same employer). To cover that last 2 weeks, they gave me another 3-year visa (I checked that box on the form just to give it a shot). It seemed to me that they took more into consideration how long you have worked for the sponsoring employer. |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:33 am Post subject: |
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When I got my first 3-year extension I had only asked for 1 year because the 3-year thing was new and I didn't know it was an option- at the time there wasn't a 3-year box to tick, you had to write how long you wanted the extension for.
I also got 3-year extensions while working for a very small company (not an English school) where I was one of only two foreign employees, so the size of the company doesn't necessarily have anything to do with it either in my experience at least.
Another time I got a 3-year extension even though I applied 2 days before my visa expired and was missing some documents.
Basically it's all in the hands of Immigration- nothing you or your employer do now is likely to make much difference.
It's the same with 1 and 3 year spouse visas- who gets what seems very random at times. |
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OneJoelFifty
Joined: 06 Oct 2009 Posts: 463
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:26 am Post subject: |
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Everyone I know that has renewed their visa in the last few months has been given 3 years, some of whom previously only had one-year extensions. Might be a coincidence, might be informal policy. When I went to renew mine just after the earthquake, I was given a one-year extension along with a letter, in English, explaining that in prefectures affected by the quake all extensions made before August 2011 would only be for one year. As that's passed, perhaps they are easing up. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:00 am Post subject: |
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[quote="rtm"]
Rooster_2006 wrote: |
I've never heard of Japanese language ability being a factor in how they grant visas for eikaiwa/ALT jobs.
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It is supposed to be a factor in getting a 5-year visa beginning in July/June 2012, but that is the limit in how it was described. The 1- and 3-year visas will still be available, but only to people who don't show whatever language skills that immigration want for the longer visa. |
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Rooster_2006
Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 984
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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Glenski wrote: |
Rooster_2006 wrote: |
I've never heard of Japanese language ability being a factor in how they grant visas for eikaiwa/ALT jobs.
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It is supposed to be a factor in getting a 5-year visa beginning in July/June 2012, but that is the limit in how it was described. The 1- and 3-year visas will still be available, but only to people who don't show whatever language skills that immigration want for the longer visa. |
I hope they make their criteria public so I can make plans to meet their criteria. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't expect them to be that clearcut, more like general guidelines. |
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Rooster_2006
Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 984
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:09 am Post subject: |
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Glenski wrote: |
I wouldn't expect them to be that clearcut, more like general guidelines. |
Neither would I. But we can always hope... |
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Cool Teacher

Joined: 18 May 2009 Posts: 930 Location: Here, There and Everywhere! :D
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:54 am Post subject: |
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Don't let the manager fill out your immigration form. Thing is maybe she downloaded it from the webstie and expects you to take it off there when it is a form you should fill out.  |
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