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What do Mexican Teachers Learn?

 
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:26 pm    Post subject: What do Mexican Teachers Learn? Reply with quote

http://news.yahoo.com/2-students-die-clash-mexican-police-001016716.html

"About 300 students from the Ayotzinapa teachers college staged the protest seeking to persuade the state government "to meet their educational demands," but did not specify what those were."


"Protesting students had hijacked buses and set fire to a gasoline station before federal police fired tear gas at the protesters."

"Mexico's public rural teachers colleges, some founded in the 1930s with a socialist philosophy, have long been a hot bed of radical activism."

Sadly this is nothing new in Mexico where teachers often go on strike and leave students from the poorest and most needy segment of Mexican society to lose days, weeks, even months of their education so that so-called teachers can stage violent and disruptive protests.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/multimedia/collection/mexican-teachers-protest-turns-violent/?page=2

http://labornotes.org/2011/05/mexican-teachers-strike-protest-over-test-driven-education
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Oaxaca teachers are making no new wage demands. They insist, however, that the Oaxaca state government install computers in all elementary schools and pay the schools� electric bills. According to union spokespeople utility bills are currently paid by parents.


So, the teachers are striking because the classrooms have no computers and your argument is that they are depriving students of an education? Read your own linked articles before making comments. Otherwise you sound like Thelmadatter.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Oaxaca teachers are making no new wage demands. They insist, however, that the Oaxaca state government install computers in all elementary schools and pay the schools� electric bills. According to union spokespeople utility bills are currently paid by parents.


Okay, my daughter's only spent one year in a Oaxacan public school before we went private (largely due to actions of the Oaxacan section of the teacher's union!) but we never ever were asked for a sent to pay utility bills. I did pay 150 pesos at the beginning of the year, that was per family, most families had two or three kids in the school the school had about 550 students, so lets say 250 families at 150 a pop, the school had about 37,500 pesos for the year. I bet they were able to pay their utility bills just fine with that.

What I hate about the teachers union is they have started demanding these things on behalf of the students and parents but never once consulted the parents. If I hadn't changed my girls to a private school they would have been given uniforms and shoes thanks to last years demands from the teachers union--I don't want government issue shoes for my daughters, I want smaller class sizes and LESS MISSED DAYS from teachers' strikes!!!!!
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

geaaronson wrote:
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The Oaxaca teachers are making no new wage demands. They insist, however, that the Oaxaca state government install computers in all elementary schools and pay the schools� electric bills. According to union spokespeople utility bills are currently paid by parents.


So, the teachers are striking because the classrooms have no computers and your argument is that they are depriving students of an education? Read your own linked articles before making comments. Otherwise you sound like Thelmadatter.


The teachers are on strike just because the want to, their reason to protest might differ from one strike to the next, but the results are the same.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My point is if the schools have no computers, the education deprived arises from governmental inaction.

Regardless, I have the feeling that there is more to this than has been reported by the press. You may or may not know that for years, the press in MX had been compromised as the papers were contracted by the government for official notices. Adverse news coverage and you just stopped receiving those lucrative government accounts. When you add to this the fact that politicians paid reporters for favorable reportage to supplement their meager earnings, you get skewed news.

Having been a reporter on a conservative/reactionary newspaper 38 years ago in the States and seen how it works even in a non-corrupt environment, how those who own the news determnine the news, I am very much aware of how the media is forced into a conservative stance.
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