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RobertinOman · Joined: 31 Jul 2010 Posts: 60

I just received this with an email saying do not tell embassy you will be teaching.

Invitation Letter
Reference No:xxx Dated: 2011-12-23
Dear Mr. xxxR
(Sex: Male, Date of Birth: Jun. 26th, xxx4, Nationality: USA, Passport No: xxxxxxx
We are delighted to inform you that xxxx University xxxx xxxxx TEFL Network has reviewed your application and accepted your educational exchange visit to xxxxx, P. R. China during February 15th of 2012 to May 31st of 2012. Please apply for your business visa as soon as possible and make travel arrangements. We sincerely hope that you will join us and establish a friendly cooperation with us here at xxxx, xxxxx University, as well as in other areas of China. You are required to participate in some educational exchange activities during your stay here.
Congratulations on your acceptance. We, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx TEFL Network, wish you successful in coming to China.
Looking forward to meeting you in xxxxxx Sincerely

steve b · Joined: 31 May 2011 Posts: 293 Location: China

Looks like a short term exchange to me? A Master Mariner friend of mine often does a few months in Guangzhou naval academy and this sounds similar.

Baozi man · Joined: 06 Sep 2011 Posts: 214

Scam. Run.

Not a good way to start your career in China, deceiving the consulate to get a visa which is not legal to use as an employee.

7969 · Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 5782 Location: Coastal Guangdong

Not a scam, they're telling you to not mention the purpose of the F visa because to teach (in most cases) you need a Z visa. There's been debate on this forum which sort of teaching jobs can be done on an F visa and which ones can't. Don't remember the details but someone will probably remind us.

Baozi man · Joined: 06 Sep 2011 Posts: 214

Any legitimate university job offer should contain documents required for a "z" visa. There may be a debate but it is among people trying to justify a scam.

He's not going there for exchange. He's going to teach. If they can't get him a "z" visa there is a reason. Especially in a situation like what he's describing.

The documents are fraudulent. The job is likely to be too. "Don't tell the embassy you will be teaching." Sound legitimate?

Miles Smiles · Joined: 07 Jun 2010 Posts: 1294 Location: Heebee Jeebee

Burn it and forget it.

choudoufu · Joined: 25 May 2010 Posts: 3325 Location: Mao-berry, PRC

rogerwilco · Joined: 10 Jun 2010 Posts: 1549

It is another scam by Hangzhou Helen China , Helen Chen, Zhejiang University, Helen charity, Helen group, China TEFL Network, CTN , where
you volunteer your time teaching in China.

That is why it is called an "educational exchange visit", and it is a scam because you are teaching for free, or even possibly paying for the privilege of being scammed.

http://en.chinatefl.com/VolunteerOpportunity/index.aspx

Btw, why would any legitimate business need to hide behind so many different names ?

"China TEFL Network
Zhejaing University Helen China TEFL Network Co., Ltd
Zhejiang Education Channel
Zhejiang University TEFL Education Management Co. Ltd
Zhejiang University TEFL Edu R&D Center
American China International Group
Asia TEFL
Canadian International Education Exchange Center
American China International Group
China TEFL Network
Zhejiang Education Channel "

http://conference.tefl.com.cn/en/Organizing.asp

Guerciotti · Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:00 pm Post subject:

If you want an opportunity to pay your airfare and expenses to teach every week on a regular university class schedule while the recruiter keeps all of your salary, airfare allowance, a commission and god knows what else; this is your chance!!

The Great Wall of Whiner · Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 4946 Location: Blabbing

Non Sequitur · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China

Unless the period of the offer, or some other personal factor makes it attractive, why go with something this dodgy when there are loads of other jobs around?
The period is basically the spring semester and while this is not the high point for recruiting, there will be legit jobs available for sure, particularly if you sign up for a year (2 semesters).
A personal factor could be not wishing to go back to the USA to visa-up. Your username suggests you are away from home currently.
Getting a proper visa from a Chinese consulate in a 3rd country is uncertain.
I've never tried it but other posters have had issues.
The job that gets you to China may not be the job that keeps you in China but don't run the risk of being black listed by corner cutting at the get go.

Guerciotti · Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:22 am Post subject:

Baozi man · Joined: 06 Sep 2011 Posts: 214

Has anyone actually seen Helen? Is she attractive? Is she tall or short, fat or thin, short or long hair? Can she speak English? Is she married? Does she date "foreigners?" Is she from the countryside?

If she is married, what kind of guy is her husband?

Does she accept "dirty money" in exchange for a better job?

Any personal info about Helen, I would like to know.