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gtd
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 Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:51 pm Post subject: finding job without a degree. will Working Holiday Visa do? |
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| Hey everyone, I'm just trying to find out which Asian countries I can and can't teach english in. I'm a 25 year old white canadian male with a TESL certificate but NO university degree. I've been told I might be able to find work in Japan with a working holiday visa. Does anyone have any answers/advice? |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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You are eligible to get a working holiday visa, yes.
The down sides
It will only be good for a total of 12 months and only once in your lifetime.
You will have to pay 20% tax on your earnings. Not sure, but you might be able to get some of that back later.
Not every employer will want to hire you for various reasons, even though your visa is valid for work.
Once you are done, you will have to go home because you will not be eligible for any work visa (unless you have several years of experience at related work).
http://www.japaneselawtranslation.go.jp/law/detail/?id=1927&vm=04&re=01&new=1
The up sides
WHV permits you to do more types of work than just teaching (some limitations on the type, see the WHV homepage).
http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/w_holiday/index.html
You can also start work immediately instead of waiting weeks after you are hired. You can do just part-time work, whereas newcomers who get work visas need at least one full-time job (their visa sponsor). WHV holders do not need an employer to sponsor their visas. |
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geekpie
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| Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:38 am Post subject: |
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| I plan on heading over once i graduate, but I'm not so sure that a WHV will hold much of an advantage over a tourist visa, namely because by the time I find something it may well be an 11 or 10 month visa, and an employer would have to sponsor me to finish the final 1 or 2 months on the contract. 90 days seems sufficient time to figure out if you're going to sink or swim in either case. Also, as said above, you lose an additional 10% of your wage, and salaries aren't fantastic to begin with. Anyone with experiences of coming over on a WHV care to comment? |
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Anglophony
Joined: 13 Dec 2011
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| Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:20 pm Post subject: only once in your lifetime? |
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| Is that really the case? Only once in your lifetime? |
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gtd
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| Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Glenski, if i were to take the route of getting a WHV (which i am currently leaning towards), would it be best to apply for jobs here in canada before or after i get a WHV? would the 6 months start right away or as soon as i enter the country? |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:39 pm Post subject: Re: only once in your lifetime? |
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| Anglophony wrote: |
| Is that really the case? Only once in your lifetime? |
For Japan anyway, yes. Exceptions exist where people with 2 passports have done 2 WHVs, or some people scam immigration with the "lost/new passport" ploy, but if you're on record now, electronic record-keeping might find you out.
| gtd wrote: |
| Glenski, if i were to take the route of getting a WHV (which i am currently leaning towards), would it be best to apply for jobs here in canada before or after i get a WHV? would the 6 months start right away or as soon as i enter the country? |
I believe you have quite a while before you even need to come after you've received the WHV, but the WHV period itself does not begin until you land in Japan.
http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/w_holiday/index.html
To minimize job hunting time, apply before you get here, but realize that few employers will interview abroad, even through Skype, and not all will even take a WHV holder.
Please also realize that WHV is for people on holiday, and the spirit of the visa is to provide some extra money while vacationing. Technically, yes, one can work full-time, but the idea is that it would be a short-term job anyway. In reality, here in Japan some employers (and the government) look the other way and let the WHV holder work longer. If someone has the qualifications to extend with a work visa, all the better, but that may not be the case for some people, and they will have to quit after their WHV is up, regardless of the work contract, so employers need to know. |
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rtm
Joined: 13 Apr 2007
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Location: US
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:39 am Post subject: |
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| geekpie wrote: |
| Anyone with experiences of coming over on a WHV care to comment? |
I don't have first-hand experience, but I did have a friend at one point who came over on a WHV. He got an eikaiwa job lined up before he came. He then worked there for 1 year, but after that he couldn't get a work visa because he didn't have a degree (or the 3 years of relevant work experience). As much as his employer (and others in the area) wanted to keep him on after his WHV, there was no visa he could get that would allow it. He went to China, and has been there ever since (about 6 years now). |
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