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AKChina
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 Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 8:20 am Post subject: Wearing glasses during medical test |
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Hi, this probably sounds ridiculous but here goes.
I need to get a medical test before my university can send out the documents for me to get a Z visa. The form has a 'vision' category on it.
My eyesight is perfect when wearing glasses, but not great when I don't have them on. I can still see, but I could only read the first couple of lines of that letters chart they make people read to determine eyesight. Would this cause me to fail the medical or is it not an issue if someone wears glasses? |
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ghost
Joined: 30 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 8:39 am Post subject: can you see this? |
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| My eyesight is perfect when wearing glasses, but not great when I don't have them on. I can still see, but I could only read the first couple of lines of that letters chart they make people read to determine eyesight. Would this cause me to fail the medical or is it not an issue if someone wears glasses? |
Doubt very much that you will have a problem. It is not like you are applying for the Royal Marines (UK) or the Marines (U.S.A.) -for positions where sharp vision is a pre requisite.
Also, keeping in mind that around 85-90% of my students wear glasses (not counting those too vain to wear them, or the few who wear contacts) most academic people, and students in China, require and use some sort of visual aids, mostly in the form of those black rimmed glasses/spectacles, that are so popular here.
In fact, many of my students, even with glasses on, cannot read my overhead projector displays very well, and often adjust their spectacles to look through the bottom part which offers a thicker part of the lense....it is not that the print is too small, because I have checked by going to the back of the class....it is that many students eyesight is deteriorating, year by year. The myopia should stabalize at around age 20 when maturity is reached. Unfortunately, some people have a continual myopia condition here, requiring ever increasing more powerful lenses. Some students fail to update their eyesight with their specialist optical specialists, most of whom are not specialized with doctor credentials in optometry.
You will not have a problem with that, unless it impeded you from doing your job. I have seen some teachers in China, who would be classified as technically 'blind' such is the extent of their poor vision (often in the minus 6 to minus 10 diopter range). My FAO remarked once, that she cannot drive at night, because of her poor vision and short sightedness. Myopia is exacerbated at night and in poor light conditions. The correction is more effective during day and bright light conditions.
Poor vision is normal in China. The rate is very high and increasing. Optical specialists have told me that peering at small screens from a young age, is partly responsible for this sad state of affairs. Another reason, is reading books in poor light conditions from a young age. Homework here, in my opinion is over the top for children so young. The eyes suffer, as a consequence. Everything has a cost. Same problems are encountered in South Korea and Japan with similar problems.
I suggest to parents that their kids should play more sports outside in natural light conditions, but most of them are only concerned by academics. Those parents who permit their children to engage in sports after school are often viewed as being misguided in their approach to parenthood.
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Son of Bud Powell
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| Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 11:50 am Post subject: |
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I've taken the visual exam with my glasses on. It's no big deal.
If you must take the test without glasses, all they'll find out is how near/far sighted you are.
The visual test is that last test given (usually) and it's a simple matter of indicating whether the capital "E" is pointing up, down, left or right.
They merely want to determine if you are blind. |
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Deats
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| Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Ghost,
You do realise in China about 75% of people with glasses aren't wearing 'real' glasses. They are just to look cool. The irony is, they probably need glasses. Some of the glasses have no lenses in but some dumbos are probably wearing them with lenses that don't match their eyesight. They are probably adjusting their glasses to move them out of the way  |
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listerialysin
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| Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Do you really believe that myopia or hyperopia is a disqualifying factor? How are possibly supposed to test actual uncorrected vision to diagnose it? uggg |
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AKChina
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| Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| OK thanks all (except for the troll). |
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water rat
Joined: 30 Aug 2014
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| Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| You will find that the assembly-line style medical exams for visas are the epitome of 'cursory'. You will be shepherded from one room to another where doctors (???) spend a few bored seconds with you before moving on to the next patient. So if you stood backwards with your eyes closed and just made up your answers to what you 'saw' on the eye chart it will be just fine. No one cares. If you want to worry about something, worry that you may actually be sick with something. Your Chinese medical examiners are surely not going to diagnose it. |
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Dan123
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| Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Deats wrote: |
Hey Ghost,
You do realise in China about 75% of people with glasses aren't wearing 'real' glasses. They are just to look cool. The irony is, they probably need glasses. Some of the glasses have no lenses in but some dumbos are probably wearing them with lenses that don't match their eyesight. They are probably adjusting their glasses to move them out of the way |
Quite a few people wear fake glasses as a fashion statement sure, but the number is nowhere near 75% of them. Unfortunately, many Chinese people really do have horrible eyesight as a result of what ghost said. I pay attention to it since I too used to have god awful eyesight until I paid for laser surgery. |
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jimpellow
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| Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| I have to wonder from my own personal experience if the pollution is also a cause of Chinese poor eyesight. When I arrived in China at the age of 40 I had 20/20 vision. Over my 5 plus years there my eyesight gradually deteriorated to the point where it was bad! I figured that my age was the culprit and needed to get glasses. But being one of those macho men who doesn't like to deal with his problems I let it slide. When I came home I decided to do a little reading before finally getting the glasses. I saw some interesting articles about how toxins and nutritional deficiencies were often the true cause of deteriorating eyesight, and how glasses masked and exacerbated the condition. So I embarked on some body cleansing routines and really focused on certain amino acids and nutrients. Within a couple months my eyesight is and remains perfect again. So a route to others I might suggest if they are experiencing the same. |
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Deats
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| Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Very interesting Jim. Nice to know if it becomes a problem, that there maybe is hope without needing specs. |
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Son of Bud Powell
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| Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| jimpellow wrote: |
| I have to wonder from my own personal experience if the pollution is also a cause of Chinese poor eyesight. When I arrived in China at the age of 40 I had 20/20 vision. Over my 5 plus years there my eyesight gradually deteriorated to the point where it was bad! |
Age forty is when males begin to experience all sorts of physical changes. Get used to it.
Really. |
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jimpellow
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| Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Son of Bud Powell wrote: |
| jimpellow wrote: |
| I have to wonder from my own personal experience if the pollution is also a cause of Chinese poor eyesight. When I arrived in China at the age of 40 I had 20/20 vision. Over my 5 plus years there my eyesight gradually deteriorated to the point where it was bad! |
Age forty is when males begin to experience all sorts of physical changes. Get used to it.
Really. |
I actually think 35 is when the true decline begins. Yeah, I know. I go to the gym five times a week, as I have done for years save one hiatus, eat well, martial arts, etc but now I can only slow the decline. I was hoping to get back into the career of my youth, cage dancing, but starting to lose hope.
On a more serious note, I did notice after about three years in China I started to gain weight and lose more hair too. The weight also reversed once I detoxed, and the hair loss definitely slowed, though has not reversed.
Looking back at these changes and how often I would get sick there, and how long it would take to get over being sick, I certainly at some level found the country a very toxic place. |
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Deats
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| Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| I was definitely more sick there in the 4 years I spent there. I think the water you shower in is really bad for skin and hair. |
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hdeth
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| Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 1:18 am Post subject: |
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If I can pass the vision exam anyone can (unless they're blind maybe?). I am legally blind without my glasses, and at best am 20/40 after a good prescription.
I remember my doctor saying something to the effect that there are two stages in your life where your vision can decline substantially...one in your late teens/early 20's and one as you get older (50ish? can't remember). The rest of your life most people's vision is fairly stable. |
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haleynicole14
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