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Firearcher · Joined: 04 Jun 2007 Posts: 35

This "Korean" school is located in Wuxi, China. (Near Shanghai) Does anyone have any information on this school? Good / bad???

There are a few posts online that seem to originate from the same source hinting that the school is a scam or misrepresents itself.

Any insight is appreciated.

Thank You

The Great Wall of Whiner · Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 4946 Location: Blabbing

If you want to work but not be paid, work for them. A good friend quit after waiting almost two months for her salary. Caution, please.

Baozi man · Joined: 06 Sep 2011 Posts: 214

I have a Korean student among my Chinese ones. The kid is a nightmare; sneaky, disrespectful, and subtly influential in a disruptive way. I'd love to throw him out into the street. I now understand why many American Blacks hate the Koreans.

Not sure if he is typical. If so, I'd avoid any school which caters to Korean Chinese students.

Lobster · Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:11 am Post subject:

So would I. I find them to be unmotivated and difficult to teach.

RED

JamesD · Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:27 am Post subject:

I worked in Japan and Korea before moving to China and have spent a good bit of time in about 12 other countries. I find Korean students to be the most ignorant, rude, disrespectful, and uncouth people on the planet. (And that includes French yuppies.)
Don't even get me started on Korean managers' dishonesty; they're in a class of their own.

EDIT: OK, cooled down and need to qualify. I do not know the school in question; comments above are based on my personal experience teaching in Korea. The kids had no respect for anyone, foreign or local, outside their family unit. 95% of the adults I met were xenophobic to a manic degree and managers preferred manipulation and posturing to discussion.

A few years ago a Korean mother brought her kid to me and asked about lessons. Thinking I couldn't understand, the kid turned to his mother and said, "This monkey looks ok."
I looked him in the eye and told him (in Korean) maybe he could learn from a monkey but I didn't think I could teach one without manners. Rather than be embarrassed the kid blew up and started throwing attitude telling me I was the one being paid so I should be more polite. End of meeting.

Baozi man · Joined: 06 Sep 2011 Posts: 214

What's important to realize is not how rotten Korean students are. What's important is to recognize how important the quality of the students is to the teacher's experience. I spent years at a school with a sociopathic administration and rotten housing because I liked the students.

The school did have a discipline department which really helped keep students in order. Korean nightmares would have been decidely dealt with.

That's a major problem with for profit education. Administrators who are not in the classroom are concerned with money, not the classroom environment. If it's hell for the FT, that's not their problem unless we make it their problem. Sometimes, this effort has unexpected consequences, such as job forfeiture.

If having a good working environment is important, we may have to be prepared to lose a job.

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Lobster · Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:41 pm Post subject:

All the professionalism in the world isn't going to help you when trying to teach zombie students who have to remain in classes 12-14 hours a day. Feel free to jump right in there and contribute to this particular style of edutorture. Unless you have direct, personal experience in teaching this group or the background of the instructor, the professional thing to do is to keep your snide remarks to yourself and display some of that self control.

RED

steve b · Joined: 31 May 2011 Posts: 293 Location: China

Whistler, a teacher's job is not to act as a doormat for spoilt brats or to pander to the money machine. A REAL teacher wants to help those who WANT to be helped.

From a previous post it would appear you may be a troll, but having been accused of the same myself here I will afford the benefit of the doubt.

I am not a backpacker. I am 55 years of age and have held senior positions for more than half my working life. I regard myself as responsible and caring. That does not mean I will let snot-nosed kids best me, if they want to learn then great, if not I can only lead the horse to water.

I would suggest you restrict your posts to something you have knowledge of instead of attacking people with experience and tarring them all with the same brush.

The Great Wall of Whiner · Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Posts: 4946 Location: Blabbing

Baozi man · Joined: 06 Sep 2011 Posts: 214

Whistler, Did you ever learn to read English? You must have gotten a fairly low IELTS score on the reading comprehension task. Why not take some classes instead of annoying people on this board?

There is nothing in the post to indicate that the poster lacked self control; actually, he exhibited commendable restraint when he was referred to as a monkey by a rude and disrespectful would be student.

He responded appropriately by showing the lad and his unfortunate mother the door. Something I would like to do for you.

peewee1979 · Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:17 am Post subject:

Is this Korean school in the New District of Wuxi? The girl from the school is her name Jane?

A friend of mine worked at that school for a semester. Said that the hours are terrible. He had to be there every morning before 8am and stay till past 5 pm. His contract said a specified amount of hours HOWEVER when he wasn't teaching he was required to stay in the class room and be the head teacher and still be in charge of the students.

So every time he left early, when his classes were done they school fined him 100 rmb an hour even though his teaching duties were completed. He said he had a Chinese TA who was useless and sat in every class and did nothing but play qq on the class computer.

He also told me that when he worked there every teacher but him and another quit and the school always tells the teachers that enrollment is poor and the school may go out of business.

I had been there twice and sat in on his classes. The students were not just Koreans but a mix of other nationalities.

Check the contract - it will say that teachers hours are 7:50am to 5pm every day and teacher must stay in the classroom those times. My friend also said they were required to take unpaid trips on the weekends and required to attend school events on the weekends and evenings - all unpaid.

Firearcher · Joined: 04 Jun 2007 Posts: 35

Yes the school in question is the Korean Internation school in Wuxi, China.

The person's name is not Jane.

I am hearing so far all bad things about this school and not one person who has had any dealings with it has said anything positive. I am aware that even though you may read a bad report about a business or school online it may very well be the report that is bad or false and the school a victim of false slander. However I am finding corrobrative reports about this school that would indicate it is in fact a poor school to work for.

If anyone has anything additional to add it would help us all - good or bad about this school.

Thank You