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liebkuchen



Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:35 am    Post subject: Best way to quit honourably Reply with quote

I've posted recently about a medical problem that's needing sorted this summer only things have slightly snowballed in the past week (I'm coping at the moment by 'creatively' self dosing) and I need to get my head around the best way to resign. I don't want to- its the final option and hopefully I'll be better in a few days with some rest and this was just a 'blip'.

My contract is a 30 day notice period. I might need a trip to the doctors to prove I'm as ill as I say I am but that'd be okay as I'm not faking it. I'm wary that the longer I leave it to say I'm having issues, then the more of a problem I make for everyone.

What happens if I have to terminate my contract prematurely and I need a reference? My work has been good as has my relationship with the uni's FAO. But obviously, if I have to go early I'm letting everyone down. What's the best way to handle it? I realise I'll lose my airfare reimbursement but I knew that was always a risk if the job didn't work out for any reason.

Also, if I have to tell my FAO I'm not coping should I mention depression or would 'homesickness' be better?

As I say, hopefully this is a premature panic but I need to ask.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always tell them the truth:

I have a medical problem I need to sort out and need to go home to deal with it.
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liebkuchen



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ta- I'm just wary about the contract clauses.

If I supply evidence of my need to go home I believe its seen as resonable and both sides just part ways. But if I just say I'm going home, no proof, I'm liable for those penalty charges (not that I have the money to pay it anyhow...)

If I do a moonlight flit, its akward for all my friends and all the good people I work with including my FAO. I'd also scupper chances of a reference.
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milkweedma



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there's a breach clause it's often better to pull a runner because they usually make their rules up as they go along.
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Lobster



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't you have a medical release clause in your contract? Also check SAFEA regulations and labour law guidelines.

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Idrinkwaytoomuchcoffee



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once you've shown them your hand, that good relationship you've had with them could change in a heartbeat.
If you have to prove to them that you're ill does that involve going to a local doctor with your FAO acting as interpreter? If they know you have to leave on a certain day, they could easily start withholding wages, drawing everything out etc..Maybe I'm just being cynical !
I wouldn't worry too much about honouring contracts, just look after number 1, especially when your healths involved.
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Miles Smiles



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lobster wrote:
Don't you have a medical release clause in your contract? Also check SAFEA regulations and labour law guidelines.

RED


I second this opinion.

However, since you describe your problem as just a "blip" and since you have a thirty-day notice clause in your contract, why not give a thirty-day notice, and live with the consequences? Or, since your condition is "just a blip" why not ride out the rest of your contract?

If you were to go home, your FAO (or whoever your boss is) would be happy to buy your ticket for you to go home. I believe that the school would probably insist upon buying your ticket home and delivering you to the airport to relieve themselves of any liability as soon as possible.

"...If I supply evidence of my need to go home I believe its seen as resonable and both sides just part ways. But if I just say I'm going home, no proof, I'm liable for those penalty charges..."

If you went home, why would you not be able to provide proof? No proof of what? Illness or that you intend to return home? Get a diagnosis from a doctor, buy your ticket ahead of time (the sooner the cheaper), and show your boss the ticket or the reservation sent to you by email.

So you'd pull a runner to make it easier on everyone? You're kidding, right?

It sounds to me that you got a better offer somewhere else.

You won't get a reference, but you are entitled to a release by the very fact that the school agrees to your departure. If you have a medical condition clause in your contract, there's no problem.
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Idrinkwaytoomuchcoffee



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be good to hear from anyone who has successfuly used the medical clause in their contract.
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xiguagua



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Great Wall of Whiner wrote:
You could always tell them the truth:

I have a medical problem I need to sort out and need to go home to deal with it.


I second this. As long as you have a good relationship with your school which ALL OF US SHOULD then why lie about it? If you have a REAL medical condition that is serious enough to go home then your school should understand that. Release letters or recommendations wouldn't matter because your school would still be happy to issue them since you left with a very valid reason.

If you're not willing to go to the hospital to get your "condition" verified then of course the school would be suspicious of you. You should be more than happy to go at their expense to verify it when you're getting what you want.

I agree with Miles Smiles, you say you have a serious condition and you need to go home, but you're not keen on proving to your school that you have this condition and you just wanna get out. Seems very suspicious to me.
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igorG



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the OP, I think that depressions and homesickness are the medical condition and those are uneasy to reason with. I gather a psychologist could issue a suggestive offical statement to help the FT out of his contract; however, i doubt such local specialists are up for the task or that Chinese employers accept such reasoning for release of duties. Please, don't shoot me as this is just my opinion based on my knowledge about the country.

My advice is to get one of your family members, from your homeland, to write a reasonable offical request for you to return home (perhaps signed by a lawyer). Have them shoot it over either scanned or faxed and present the letter to your FAO then.
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liebkuchen



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Best way to quit honourably Reply with quote

liebkuchen wrote:
I might need a trip to the doctors to prove I'm as ill as I say I am but that'd be okay as I'm not faking it.


You've missread me- I said above that I'm happy to go see a doctor to cover myself (I do have a standard SAFEA contract). Admittedly, I'd rather not use my FAO as a translator but my female student friends are on their hols at the moment.

I have a changeable ticket and just enough money to deal with the charges and get home.

We do have a good FAO and I feel loyal to him and my colleagues as we're a supportive bunch and I certainly DO NOT want to pull a runner (I a properly trained classroom teacher so I'm acutely aware of professional standards). I also really don't want to mess up his hols but if I'm still cruddy by Thursday, I really need a doctor...

If I cry in front of my FAO like I have been (at the drop of a hat) they might be happy to get rid of me rather than keep the mad woman on the books...
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igorG



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

double post, sorry
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igorG



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry. Was it me who has missread you?

If I were seriously ill, I would surely seek a local specialist to prove I am not fit to continue my employment agreement. Depressions or homesickness, in my view, may be more difficult to certify and/or present to even a great FAO, especially once the term begins. Perhaps, I�d call such an honest approach a gamble. Should your school disagree with the request, you may have to deal with some more difficult times later on there. A good lie is sometimes better than the truth.
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liebkuchen



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, Igor- you didn't misread me Smile

Only finding the local specialist without my FAO's going to be impossible as there's no 'foreign' hospital and the only medical things I can say in chinese are 'headache' and 'ibuprofen'.

I agree that its a gamble whether I'm honest or not. Eurgh!
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Guerciotti



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually your FAO is better off if you stay, no matter how crazy you may seem.

Regardless, possibly you are in the depression stage of culture shock? You arrived in August or September? It is rough but you can get past it. It most likely will last beyond Thursday I'm sorry to say. Won't you be happy when the students return? You seem like a nice lady, the students probably adore you. I'm an ugly old man, and my students adore me! Wait I'm dreaming。 哈哈

Did you go to the gym today? I love the gym!

I can't predict or dictate what you ultimately do, but meanwhile don't stay in your apartment/flat all day! Take a walk. Go to the gym. Do something. Find a restaurant where you can eat and just sit and read for a few hours. Go shopping. Read a book. It helps if I internet-connect to a radio station back home and just listen. Please do something.

I wish you the best regardless of your actions.
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